Thursday, January 24th, 2013
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"Zinging The Chubby" Something Less Exciting Than I Initially Thought

“Zinging the chubby does not require a shift in our daily conversation. Plenty of Americans are already more than willing to chide their fellow fatties about their weight.”
—The head of the Division of Medical Ethics at NYU Langone Medical Center expresses opposition to the idea that shaming the obese might cause them to lose weight.

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saythatscool (#101)

If it weren't for the obese, most of our commenters' chubbies would never get zinged. #respectfullydedicatedtodeepomegasmom

cherrispryte (#444)

@saythatscool It's funny because fat people are undesirable, and seen as a last resort!

PS I MISS YOU.

saythatscool (#101)

@cherrispryte I MISS YOU MORE. Where have you been?

cherrispryte (#444)

@saythatscool I got promoted and now have a shiny job that, while far more awesome, does not permit me time to dick around on the internet. It's really the only downside, but it's a big one!

IBentMyWookie (#133)

Can we still zing them for being hard to look at?

mattcornell (#3,429)

@IBentMyWookie I am going to eat you. That way, you won't have to look at us anymore.

IBentMyWookie (#133)

@mattcornell And then you'll claim that you didn't eat at all and don't know why you're so fat….

mattcornell (#3,429)

@IBentMyWookie No. I intend to take full credit for eating you. Be ready.

#56 (#56)

“He must not have any contact with actual free-range fat people,” she added.>> This from a member of the advisory board for the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance. Free-range, really?

cherrispryte (#444)

@#56 Yes, free-range. As in actual people, who have personalities and feelings and have struggled with their weight for years, and been stigmatized because of it, denied proper healthcare because of it, been harassed and bullied because of it, and are not just statistics on a page or are depicted as headless round bodies on newspaper articles.

Free-range fatties, living our lives and working and eating and fucking and exercising and actually being real people. It's a terrifying thought to a lot of you, I get that, but we're not a blight on society or a problem that needs a solution. We're people, dammit.

And sometimes that needs to be pointed out to ignorant-ass motherfuckers like whoever thinks that shaming people is an effective way of doing anything. Being fat isn't like smoking. And if that person thinks being fat isn't already obscenely socially unacceptable, and doesn't realize that we're encouraged by pretty much everyone and everything to hate our bodies, then they're a fucking asshole who doesn't deserve to be listened to.

#56 (#56)

@cherrispryte Excuse my ignorance, I've just never heard that term used for people.

Amasa Amos (#9,654)

@cherrispryte And yet "free-range" is a descriptor most immediately associated in most people's minds with cattle. As in bovine. As in probably not the most sensitive way to categorize any type of person, fat or otherwise.

#56 (#56)

@Amasa Amos Yes. THIS!

cherrispryte (#444)

@Amasa Amos But that's the point – fat people are seen as sub-human already. Making it obvious by using such terminology just points out what other people are already thinking.

And @#56 – my outrage wasn't directed at you as much as the entire concept up for debate here. Which clearly I have a lot of feelings about.

saythatscool (#101)

@cherrispryte wait, now I'm confused too. So it's like their reappropriating the word? Like fag and nigga? This is a genuine question, by the way. No sarcasm.

cherrispryte (#444)

@saythatscool I think it's more sarcastic than reappropriative? (LOOK I MADE A WORD) There's definitely been an effort to reclaim fat and fatty, but it's not like "free-range fatties" has become a catchphrase, as far as I know.

What it strongly reminded me of, however, is one of my most favorite Lesley Kinzel quotes, where she's talking about how when Precious came out, the entire world was shocked by how charming and funny and sweet Gabourey Sidibe is: "Gabby represents a lot of us that our culture and our media don’t believe exist; we are fat unicorns, frolicking in fields of candy flowers, having the unfathomable gall to be happy and enthusiastic and funny and real in a world that demands we be apologetic, and shamed, and chastized, and isolated."

I don't know if it was a deliberate nod to that concept or not, but that's what I thought of, so in that way, it doesn't seem insulting? Who knows, YMMV.

mattcornell (#3,429)

@cherrispryte Thank you for saying this.

natural (#91,410)

"Free-range fat people" is a term that only could have been created by something like the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance.

hershmire (#233,671)

Free-range fat people eggs are more expensive but less cruel than cage-free fat people eggs.

cherrispryte (#444)

@hershmire And you can't donate either of them.

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