Thursday, August 30th, 2012
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There Goes Lyin' Ryan

Observers: Paul Ryan's convention speech last night was possibly a tad inaccurate. Will he somehow manage to get away with it? Yeah, probably.

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brent_cox (#40)

He managed not to say "rape" for the entire speech. That's something.

Ham Snadwich (#11,842)

Surprisingly, Ryan got called out by Fox News about his dishonest speech.

Astigmatism (#1,950)

@Ham Snadwich Unfortunately, you have to go to Fox News' designated "liberal" columnist to find that. No way they'll ever put that under the News section.

Ham Snadwich (#11,842)

@Astigmatism – A fair point. Still, it's #1 on their trending articles sidebar.

hman (#53)

Can you get Angus Young on the line and ask him to weigh in?

deepomega (#1,720)

Just out of curiosity, are we allowed to fact check the fact checkers' claims? Like the bullshit about the Janesville plant being closed in 2008, which is all based on one inaccurate article written two weeks ago?

@deepomega: What about this article from the Janesville Gazette in 2008? You can argue about the difference between "idled" or "on standby" or "closed," but it's pretty clear that GM had planned and begun plant closure before Obama's election.

deepomega (#1,720)

@brilliantmistake "Downtime for 12 weeks" is not the same as "closure," and the plant was making vehicles well into 2009. And from the article that was the original source from all this, "In June 2009, GM considered three sites to locate a small car: its Orion plant in Michigan; Janesville, Wis.; and a Spring Hill, Tenn., plant slated to close in November. GM picked Orion and later reopened Spring Hill." Note that June 2009 was when GM was in the middle of the bailout/Chapter 11 process. So the point Ryan was making – "Obama promised the government would keep this factory open, and then didn't do so" – is perfectly correct.

That said, it's a stupid fucking point for an allegedly small government fiscon to make. "I, unlike that SOCIALIST, would have used government money to protect that plant!"

FACT: The Janesville plant closed in 2009. Obama was President in 2009. Sorry libs.
FACT: Obama cut Medicare by $716 Billion
Washington Post: “Romney's Right: Obamacare cuts Medicare by $716 billion"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/14/romneys-right-obamacare-cuts-medicare-by-716-billion-heres-how/

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