Tuesday, April 10th, 2012
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Red State Gun Culture Kills Cops

This is a particularly brutal column coming in the wake of yesterday's big piece on the NYPD: eight black New York city college students reported being stopped and frisked 92 times all told. Meanwhile, also in the Times today, but over on the front page, it's this: killing of police officers is at a four-year-high. The Times plays this really big and really wrong, and calls this "a disturbing trend," but it's actually not. (It is disturbing, of course.) But 2008 was the ten-year low for police officers being killed, and 2012 is, so far, year-to-date, down 49% from last year. So it's actually the opposite of a trend: last year was a terrible anomaly.

Here's what is a "trend": Zero police officers have been killed this year in New York and California, but there's been two each in Florida, Michigan, Texas, Alabama and Georgia. Last year, Georgia had five; Florida had three; Michigan had three; Texas and Alabama had just one. Those are all "shall-issue" concealed carry states. That means you need a permit, but to get one, you just have to meet the requirements, not get approved.

Here's another and completely related "trend": zero officers were kiled in 2010 with knives. Zero were killed by bombs. One was killed with a car. All of the rest of the officers killed in 2010 were killed with guns: 38 with handguns, 15 with rifles, 2 with shotguns.

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LeslieB (#231,709)

Correlation does not always equal causation. Do you really think that a criminal willing to shoot a police officer is concerned about following concealed carry laws?

Abe Sauer (#148)

Wait until the results come in for Indiana's new "stand your ground against police" law!

deepomega (#1,720)

@Abe Sauer It's unenforceable, really. It's not like any jury ever convicts cop shooters, regardless of how no-knock and unannounced the cops are and how non-criminal the shooters are.

deepomega (#1,720)

@deepomega Whoops – *ever acquits, sorry. Where'd the edit button go?

Abe Sauer (#148)

@deepomega That is certainly solace to the family of the dead police officer.

SidAndFinancy (#4,328)

I fought the law, and the law won, due to the unavailability of armor-piercing, hollow-point bullets in my jurisdiction.

my_piru (#13,158)

I'll bite: why should I care if a police officer that stops and frisks somebody 92 times (or throws them on the ground with their footstomping out) dies or not?

Also, LOL at that typically castrated NYT article about Ray Kelly:
"No one doubts Mr. Kelly’s dedication"

oldtaku (#9,009)

So what laws do we need to pass to bring NYPD back into parity?

There are 45 other states that are shall issue with no such stats. So what's the point here?

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