Friday, October 7th, 2011

City Disappointing

Awl pal Michelle Dean explains to Toronto why she's breaking up with it.

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ekates (#91,193)

make the best of it, life is what you make of it.
(garrison keillor, prairie home companion)

Ralph Haygood (#13,154)

It's pretty damn rich to complain about Rob Ford and Stephen Harper while extolling the city that elected Rudolph Giuliani in the country that elected George W. Bush.

TheRtHonPM (#10,481)

Toronto: If you can make it there, then you can make it.

KeithTalent (#2,014)

No one here in TO thinks they are living in New York. We are well aware of the difference. Among other things, we have the quality of writing in Toronto Life vs. the quality of writing in various New York publications to remind us.

Blackcapricorn (#4,791)

Sorry, this entire article is ridiculous. My unabashed love for Toronto when I visit there aside, the fact that the city isn't as "interesting" as New York is maddening. I face it all the time here in LA from my NYC friends who move out. Oh "its not New York", you don't say? There are great things that make New York, New York and there are lousy things about it as well, the same for any city. To expect every place to have NY-style things is stupidpants. TO has a lot to be said for it and to want to move out of it because of some sort of malaise you are in and for the weird reason of a the conservative government is hardly worth a 3 page article in TO Life.

Yeesh, I think I need to chill out and have some lemon squares and beer bread.

TheRtHonPM (#10,481)

@Blackcapricorn I generally agree about comparing any city to New York. But (having lived in both places) the article is more or less still true if you replace "New York" with "Chicago".

Mr. B (#10,093)

@Blackcapricorn The whole Canadian inferiority complex must get a tad grating after a while, no?

Niko Bellic (#1,312)

@Blackcapricorn "the same for any city"

I know! Mogadishu, Ulan Bator, Pyongyang… every place has it's good and it's bad sides, no one is better than anyone else, and nobody should ever compare or criticize anybody. Except those Newyorkers. They are the worst!

Blackcapricorn (#4,791)

@Niko Bellic All I am saying is that New Yorkers transplanted to other cities definitely have a "I don't own a TV" vibe.

MichelleDean (#7,041)

I am always making people angry! Clearly I need some lemon squares.

Danzig! (#5,318)

@MichelleDean I'm with you – the one thing I really couldn't stand was the horrible dearth of public transit despite the enormous size of the city. It was like going back west.

KeithTalent (#2,014)

My stock statement about Toronto is that it is "slow to reveal its charms." I actually think this is true; I don't mean it in a snippy way. It has almost zero wow factor. It takes a long time to figure out. Much of the good stuff is semi-hidden.

Rosebud (#4,107)

@KeithTalent I lived there 3 years and never found the good stuff. I finally escaped to NYC.

KeithTalent (#2,014)

@KeithTalent I get that. 3 years is more than a fair shake.

Niko Bellic (#1,312)

@Rosebud Yeah, that's thing about NYC. All you need is to enter the city, and voila: good stuff.

Rosebud (#4,107)

@KeithTalent Well, I'm from Texas and I was there with a Canadian boyfriend, so there was no way it was going to end well.

alorsenfants (#139)

That was pithy. And yet — for the most eloquent city vs. city shootout of all time, you must revisit this piece from Spy magazine about Los Angeles vs. San Francisco from the 90's? I have a well-worn, smudged, Xeroxed (remember?) copy of the article which I occasionally share with friends — did so yesterday. But your piece inspired me to find it on the Net. And here it is! Almost nothing I've ever read about Anything rings as true –

flossy (#1,402)

Not only do people in Toronto stand on the actual sidewalk while waiting for a light to change, they look at you as if you were rocking a tinfoil hat if you walk out as far as possible into the intersection like a normal human being. Good grief.

shudder (#5,913)

@flossy so manifestly false.

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