Monday, August 15th, 2011
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Website Wants Money

What do Awl pals Eric Freeman, David Roth and Bethlehem Shoals have in common? Well, they're Awl pals. But also this.

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Bubbles (#5,041)

How much gets me a photo of Roth holding up an "I Love Can't Stop the Bleeding" sign?

David Roth (#4,429)

@Bubbles Six years of (sporadic) bylines isn't proof enough of my CSTB love? If not, it'll cost you zero dollars: still love it, always will love it, especially the "sad toilets" tag. (And you don't want to see a photograph of me holding anything, I promise)

keisertroll (#1,117)

If Dave needs to sweeten the pot I have a signed copy of Jesse Helms' "Where Free Men Shall Stand".

keisertroll (#1,117)

And for a $500 donation I will replace the name RUSSELL MORIN with yours on my 1964 Ford Punt Pass & Kick First Place Winner certificate.

(For me to send it to you it'll cost you $600.)

jolie (#16)

He has
He used to
He is
He contributes
He has
He founded
He co-writes
He was
He has
He is

Bubbles (#5,041)

@jolie The woman who writes about sports is already taken.

melis (#1,854)

@Bubbles And how!

Why do websites always want the one thing I don't have?!

Go a month without deluxe bagels, you cheapskate.

keisertroll (#1,117)

@sorry your heinous If you donate $30,000 you get a $20 giftcard to Panera.

jfruh (#713)

I donated $10 and sent a facetious demand that David Roth write a "Yakkin' About Sauces" column for my amusement, and he sent me his email address and invited further correspondence! JUST THINK OF WHAT YOU COULD GET FOR $50, is what I'm saying.

If anyone wants to combine pledges, we can share the t-shirt fortnightly.

jolie (#16)

Ahhhh there's so much fun to be had here! I actually cannot quite pick my favorite part, but let's start with the prize for donating five grand: YOU GET TO DO THEIR JOBS FOR A WHOLE WEEK! That takes a tremendous set of cojones, fellows, nicely done!

Also I'm going to go ahead and ask the obvious: Why not start this up as The Awl's new vertical? I realize the sites are skewing heavily to the penisary already, so it wouldn't do much for diversification but perhaps that's a positive in terms of bundling advertising? I dunno. I'd read it! (But only only really on the day when Balk had to edit both sites because he lost a bet, let's be honest.)

Also also! Doesn't this site already exist under the name Grantland? I am genuinely curious what the differentiation is here – and am being totally serious when I say that I'm sure there is one, I just can't suss it out!

Shit now I'm all riles up and my column is in tatters and we just had that conversation about how I need to focus more on my work.

@jolie Well, this won't have Bill Simmons for one. (+500)

techmo (#11,038)

@jolie "Doesn't this site already exist under the name Grantland?" Yes but now with even more pretentious footnotes! (also – very, very excited for this)

jolie (#16)

@sorry your heinous This is a tremendously strong point, and one that I would suggest they add to their pitch materials.

keisertroll (#1,117)

@jolie That's how they recruited me.

dntsqzthchrmn (#2,893)

Srsly, why (aside from it being an xx-free zone) isn't this an Awl affiliate awlready? Was there a pitch meeting with a little too much of the wrong kind of yakking?

keisertroll (#1,117)

@dntsqzthchrmn They're following the UFL model; hoping for a merger once The Awl's lockout is over.

David Roth (#4,429)

@jolie The we're-all-30-something-white-dudes issue is something we noticed, obviously. All I can say about it is that the names on the Kickstarter pitch are not at all the only people who will write for the site if/when it ever exists, and that our gender/color combo will of course/obviously not be the only one represented.

That is, we'll all be writing there, but we all also know that what will or won't make it work is finding writers who can write and letting them write about things in a way that isn't bound by the news cycle or whatever people are yelling about on the radio. (I can think of at least one site on which I am currently typing a comment for which that idea worked) So of course we're going to be recruiting and (if/when the thing becomes an actual thing) publishing writing by people who aren't 30something white heteros. Of course.

jolie (#16)

@David Roth Huh okay I think you meant this in response to my upthread cheekiness but sure! But I'd actually be more interested in answering my actual serious questions? Why not The Awl Presents The Jockstrap? How is this different from Grandland? (Other than no Bakes, no Simmons?)

Talk to us, Dave.

jolie (#16)

(Sorry my typos are out of control today and that I'm using a machine so craptastic that The Awl's comment editing function won't work for me)

David Roth (#4,429)

@jolie It was! I was out of thread, and for that I am sorry. Also defensive. For that I can only blame the fact that I and eight other white guys within 10 years of me in age are trying to start a website and we all feel a little silly about that, if also excited.

The other stuff I'd rather not talk about here, which I know is a little corny but also easy enough to understand, I imagine. Email me and I'll do my best to answer whatever questions you've got.

jolie (#16)

@David Roth Is okay, I understand. (And also? I know and like you personally, and wish you all great success, so please take me being a wiseass as nothing more than The Way Things Are Done Around Here.)

David Roth (#4,429)

@jolie Taken as such, of course, and thanks. I feel like I've typed "of course" 40 or 50 times in this comment thread alone.

boyofdestiny (#1,243)

Aww. This has been precious.

Rodger Psczny (#3,912)

@jolie Grantland without Simmons is a solar system without a sun. But also much funnier. Because Simmons is a prat.

Sharpling: Always. Sports: Never.
Sorry.

hman (#53)

@My Number Is My Address "Heave ho." (j/k! I'm with you.)

dntsqzthchrmn (#2,893)

How much to commission an investigative piece on the rise of the verb "to plate" in baseball journalism?

OK, you've got my pledge! Now I'd like to interest you in my services writing nothing but observations taken from the Oakland Coliseum, 1988-2006.

@Clarence Rosario You should also go out and critique tailgate grilling techniques. Bonus points if you get people to try and fight you.

David Roth (#4,429)

@sorry your heinous I look forward to editing your 844-part series, "Where Hammer Once Danced," Clarence. And to any tailgating-related stuff you've got, too, although I won't be able to cover any injuries incurred in the reporting process.

@David Roth "The Flight Of The Bullpen Chair" and "Grill Marks, Not Prison Tats" alone will keep me busy through the Fall.

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