Thursday, May 20th, 2010
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Neighborliness And No Loneliness? What City Am I Living In?

sinatraNew York is changing. New York is always changing. Now it's a place where people come to raise families; you can't smoke in bars; the Meatpacking District is like Miami or Los Angeles or Milan or something; Times Square is like Disneyland except with more car bombs. All true. But sometimes it seems like New York is changing faster and more dramatically than you'd ever expect. Like when the place seems to be losing its most New York characteristics.

Take this article in the Home and Garden section of today's Times. It's about how a couple's divorce can affect other people in the building where they live. It starts by acknowledging the cliche that New Yorkers don't know their neighbors. Then it asserts that this is not always the case, and that when close relationships are formed within a building the ugliness of a divorce can make everyone feel uncomfortable.

"Joseph Cilona, a clinical psychologist and life coach in Manhattan, said that in the last several months he has had three cases involving clients trying to deal with troubled relationships in their apartment buildings. 'It's kind of a natural reaction to close the doors,' he said. 'But neighbors should be proactive, should talk about what's happened and should purposely try and push things back to where they were.'"

I had to read that three or four times, with my jaw dropped open, before coming to conclusion that Dr. Cilona was not in fact advocating that neighbors try to push a divorcing couple back together-which would be an extremely intrusive thing to do, and fly very much in the face of the New York tradition of minding one's own business. Rather, he is saying neighbors should push their respective relationships with each side of the couple back to "where they were." But that is not very clear.

Then there's the case of Holly F., a woman whose upstairs neighbors-a couple with three children-split up after a loud drunken argument turned physical and led to the man's arrest.

The father spent the night in jail and was reunited with the family the next day. But within the year, he had moved out and the couple had divorced. Soon after, Holly F. moved out as well. "I became jumpy about everything," she recalled. "And I didn't even realize it until I got out of there. It makes the neighbors a nervous wreck. It was like a disease had spread to me, and I was an innocent bystander."

This person moved out, gave up her apartment, because her neighbors got a divorce. In the New York housing market!

Lastly the article tells the happier story of a woman named Mary Williams who got divorced but, because of the friendly relationship she had with her neighbors, was able to take a different apartment in the same building to stay near her children. Her neighbors even gave her furniture.

"The worst aspects of living in a close space also became the best. I had a community I could go to, that reached out and helped us," she said. "When you live here, there's no escape. But there's also no loneliness."

There's no loneliness in New York City? What?! New York City is the loneliest place in the world! It's the whole main paradox of city life. Being alone in a crowd-this is a defining characteristic of the place. What about the guy playing the saxophone on his fire escape late on a hot summer night? You think he doesn't feel lonely? That sound doesn't make you feel lonely? Everyone else can hear it, the city is full of people, you don't they all hear it, we all hear it, you don't think it makes everyone feel lonely? Isn't that why anyone who lives here lives here, to feel lonely?

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HiredGoons (#603)

My neighbor's have too-good weed for me not to be friends with them.

HiredGoons (#603)

Neighbors.

I'll just go crawl into a hole now.

nyssa23 (#4,503)

Ha! When I was a kid we had weed-selling neighbors. My mom almost died of embarrassment the day her older brother visited us and made a purchase next door.

DoctorDisaster (#1,970)

I'm also unhappy with "too-good weed" as a noun phrase. -5 See me after class

HiredGoons (#603)

I have so much shame :(

NicFit (#616)

How about "the super retardo"?

hockeymom (#143)

THIS is why we need an edit button. So we don't have to go sit for two minutes and feel shame (quick…name that movie).

DoctorDisaster (#1,970)

@nyssa – No lie: I almost died of embarrassment when my mom made a purchase from my weed-selling roommate.

@hockeymom – Salo.

Dave Bry (#422)

Hired Goons, it sounds like your neighbor may have a drug problem. Have you spoken to everyone else in your building about this? Maybe you should go and talk to your neighbor about it? To see if he needs help. Maybe if you and all the other people in you building got together and confronted your neighbor in some sort of hallway intervention gathering, he would feel more supported and less lonely and would not have to resort to smoking weed. This is the new New York. You're never lonely. Or left alone, to enjoy your awesome, awesome, too-good-really-not-to-share drugs.

hockeymom (#143)

Salo?
Um, no.
The movie I'm thinking of stars one of the best looking actors of any generation and a memorable strip tease.
(not nearly the amount of nudity in Salo. Or feces.)

Bill Madison?

/self-flagellating comedic fail

Bittersweet (#765)

The movie's right there in your name! Clever!

And damn yes about the best looking actor.

Bittersweet (#765)

I mean, there's a clue in your name…yeesh.

Mindpowered (#948)

-Slapshot.

Totally.

HiredGoons (#603)

@Dave: maybe I should also confiscate his stash and smoke it. You know, just so he doesn't.

Dave Bry (#422)

You are a good neighbor.

sigerson (#179)

So many questions, HiredGoons. Do you have to really be "friends" with them to get their oh-so-excellent weed? Couldn't you just buy it? Or do you get it for free as a "friend"? Also, where you high when you wrote this?

HiredGoons (#603)

He also has an amazing record collection.

I was not high; my spelling would be much worse.

HiredGoons (#603)

@Dave: selfless, really.

You forgot to embed the map of registered sex offenders.

kate327 (#3,814)

Would you be mine? Could you be mine? Won't you be my neighbor?

the teeth (#380)

Was just reading reviews of "here is new york" 30 minutes ago. (Don't ask.) But: "On any person who desires such queer prizes, New York will bestow the gift of loneliness and the gift of privacy" and all that.

Jeff Carpenter (#3,752)

I, for one, am sick of all the Times Square to Disneyland comparisons. What did Disneyland ever do to you? It deserves better.

KenWheaton (#401)

I'm sure Mary Williams' husband REALLY appreciated that bit where his ex-wife LIVED IN THE SAME BUILDING.

Bittersweet (#765)

Our Boston landlord (married couple) split up and the wife moved into the upstairs unit of our two-family. 3 months later, her ex booted us from the downstairs unit and moved in. One big happy…

berthamason (#740)

I've got new york all to myself
from the great white way
to little west 12th
from the big blue bridge
to the hudson's swells
I've got new york all to myself

the day is gone, the night is, too
everywhere to go, but nothing to do
I had a lover once, but that fell through
I've got new york, but I ain't got you

got all new york to be lonely in
got cigarettes, and I've got gin
and though I feel just like I've got no skin
I've got new york and the winter wind…

ow that hurt (#3,919)

the 6ths?

La Cieca (#1,110)

Anyone who takes three years to find an apartment, then ends up in Inwood (!) and has the gall to write about about it — she deserves to end up living in the same building — in Inwood! — as her ex.

City_Dater (#2,500)

Please keep making Inwood sound bad, because I loathe the self-satisfied young couples I've been seeing around the neighborhood lately. Just this morning in Inwood Hill Park, there was a guy running wearing those fucking toe-sock-shoes pushing an expensive "sports stroller" full of toddler. If I wanted to be nearly run over by something like that, I would overpay for some hovel in Brooklyn.

If anything can bring neighbors together, it's the desire to keep this sort of thing from moving in next door.

Neopythia (#353)

Amen. Stay in Park Slope, and apparently Tribeca these days, expensive stroller, running people!

Apparently, City Dater, we are neighbors. Perhaps we need to hold an intervention for these people.

sigerson (#179)

CD – Congratulations for exemplifying the urban dweller resentful of young families in the neighborhood. This is very trendy of you! Especially notable is the gratuitous reference to "self-satisfied". Did they identify themselves to you as "self-satisfied"? How do you know for a fact that they are actually "self-satisfied"? It's far more likely they are sleep-deprived, short-tempered and wondering why they ever decided to ruin their social life by having children.

HiredGoons (#603)

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAD SEEN TOE-SOCK-SHOES!!! A HEX UPON THEM! A HEX!

City_Dater (#2,500)

@ Neopythia: Maybe all we need to do is track down one of those dudes who uses his car as a boom box and ask him to park on the most newly white-and-uptight block? Summer street life noise might be enough to scare 'em away.

City_Dater (#2,500)

@HiredGoons: AAAIIIEEEK!
Hold my hand until they walk away!

dntsqzthchrmn (#2,893)

Inwood blows.

Honest Engine (#1,661)

Who actually goes to New York to raise families? I know people who meet, get married (or not) in New York, and then raise kids shoehorned into their "two bedrooms". But I've never met anyone who was like, "Honey, I've had enough of Boston, or Peoria or whatever, let's go raise our kids in New York City!"
'cept maybe the maybe the Rich do this. I don't really know too many of them, those Rich.

sigerson (#179)

This issue turns, like so many things in New York City do, on whether you live in a coop or a condo. Coops are communities of long-term residents bound together by shared ownership and fellowship. Condos are like rent-by-the-hour motels, with cold, indifferent strangers moving in and out in the dark of night.

sigerson (#179)

/pun intended

Tuna Surprise (#573)

I beg to differ. If you would've been at my condo board meeting last night you never would have said that.

Drama, in-fighting, twenty-year long feuds resurfacing as a fight over whether to post pdfs of board minutes online. I bought into a condo to avoid this kind of bullshit.

sigerson (#179)

Fair enough. I think rent-stabilized buildings also have long, long relationships between various residents.

tiny dancer (#1,774)

Maybe the takeaway is not to get married?

drjcilona (#5,052)

Actually, my comment was in response to what can be done when a very supportive, close-knit, engaged building community turns sour and very stressful due to these kinds of issues. I feel that there are many advantages to that kind of neighborly environment, particularly for children, and that it's important to be proactive in resolving the conflict, reducing stress, and restoring as much as is possible the environment that existed previously. I was suggesting that neighbors should interfere with the personal problems of those in conflict.
Dr. Cilona.

Dave Bry (#422)

Wow. Interesting. Thanks, Dr. Cilona, for clearing up my confusion. Your recommendation surprises me. But I am no doctor.

drjcilona (#5,052)

was NOT suggesting

drjcilona (#5,052)

Sorry about the typo. :)

Dave Bry (#422)

Ahh. So you're suggesting pushing the general environment in the building back to where things were. That makes much more sense to me. Thanks, again Dr. Cilona.

sigerson (#179)

I guess it's a sign of something that The Awl is popular enough to attract the actual subjects of stories to join and comment on posts.

drjcilona (#5,052)

You're welcome. No problem. There were actually other comments and suggestions for this kind of situation that didn't make the article. I really wanted to emphasize that although we can be remarkably adaptive, sometimes we don't realize how depleting it can be when serious stress is associated with our home environment. You can really pay a price with that ongoing stress in your life. If you were lucky enough to have a community-like environment, I think it's worth trying to be proactive to repair it rather than just give up.

paperbackwriter (#2,844)

Every piece like this wields the "New York is changing" weapon like it means more than Manhattan and the fringes of the sexy outer boroughs. I personally hope to god that New York is changing, specifically to not include Staten Island anymore.

checkonetwo (#3,234)

New York isn't the loneliest place in the world! Los Angeles is. Jack Kerouac said it which means it's so.

zorica (#4,135)

NYC isn't less lonely than anywhere else, it's the same amount of lonely as everywhere but because there's so many damn people you have to admit that the loneliness isn't because you're lacking in opportunities to be social, it's because of something else. It's because we're all alone until we're not and it's not something we can choose. You can live with your sister and be lonely, you can spend the evening with your best friend and be lonely, you can be married and be lonely. And then you can go to the park with any of those people and feel so profoundly connected or, worse, you can go to the park alone, end up talking to an annoying stranger for a few hours and realize suddenly that you feel more connected than you have in months.

People aren't the answer to loneliness, not even good, meaningful people. Love is not the opposite of loneliness, and neither is company.

Cats are not the opposite of loneliness but they are closer to it than anything else. So are dogs, but they pee on things and that's not exactly ideal is it.

alorsenfants (#139)

WAIT: if Jack Kerouac says a thing, then it becomes So?!!

But I never thought he said Anything.

(And — deal — we love L.A.)

alorsenfants (#139)

Also — when I consider moving back to New York these days, I often consult the Craigslist opportunities in Inwood and Washington Heights.

(My $285. a month studio at 16 W. 75th is somehow no longer available?)

Anyways, like those uptown possibilities — take the A train! — better than the Greenpoint kinds of propositions.

Don't like any of the choices enough though?

scrooge (#2,697)

You have to be crazy to live in New York. And who wouldn't be lonely, surrounded by crazy people and so many of them?

HiredGoons (#603)

Fuck the pain away.

Matt H (#45)

As Johnny Thuders said: "New York City's…So Alone."

Unless you happen to be a character on Friends, Seinfeld, SATC etc; in which case your ginourmos apartment is a salon/fraternity, and love frequently comes knocking at the nearby coffee shop/over-priced bistro.

God, I would love to feel a little lonely these days. I feel like I have the whole world on my tits.

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