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Friday, February 26, 2010

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How Many Years Will It Take Us To Get John Yoo's Emails?

NO SERIOUSLY The number one thing I am pissed off about this month, right after NBC's Olympics coverage, is the disappeared John Yoo emails, which could probably shed a lot of light on how the previous administration created policies to torture people. This is such an unbelievable scandal, both on the issue of torture but also of government accountability. Pretty much, as a nation, everything should come to a standstill until this is dealt with. This morning, the Senate Judiciary Committee asked Gary Grindler, Acting Deputy Attorney General, about the emails, and got total mumbling in response. This is like, pitchforks and subpoenas and prosecution time, people. There are extremely explicit rules about this kind of thing, and in light of the Bush administration email-disappearing shtick, in which everyone had to go to court over and over again simply to get what should have been carefully-conserved White House emails, was bad enough. But these are actual lawyers, at the actual Department of Justice, who have engaged in disappearing critical emails.

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Abe Sauer
Abe Sauer (#148)

"Pretty much, as a nation, everything, after healthcare, should come to a standstill until this is dealt with." AGREED!

Choire Sicha

Oh! For once I agree with Representative Abe's friendly amendment. Duly seconded.

brad
brad (#1,678)

as if theissen and cheney flying about on leathery wings trying to scare the fuck out of everyone wasn't enough proof... ...aghghh...fuushitferfucsakes.....

brad
brad (#1,678)

i just had a rage stroke.

Uncle Billy Slumming

After healthcare, and after making sure the government cheese warehouses are topped off.

Abe Sauer
Abe Sauer (#148)

will be done in reconciliation!

NicFit
NicFit (#616)

Lawyers? Acting shady?

jolie
jolie (#16)

Yes. This. All of it. *storms off to scrub bathroom in a rage*

ContainsHotLiquid

Rage-scrubbing is the best kind of scrubbing.

lost_in_transubstantiation

Just ask Joan Crawford.

cherrispryte
cherrispryte (#444)

I think procrastination scrubbing is better, but I am unsure.

jolie
jolie (#16)

Nothing gets the grout cleaner than a good rage scrub.

hobbson
hobbson (#3,678)

Melancholy-scrubbing begs to differ. (The secret ingredient is despair!!!)

ContainsHotLiquid

Cinderella style. I can dig it.

derwood
derwood (#3,482)

"I'm not mad at the DIRT... I'm mad at Yoo!"

lost_in_transubstantiation

You know, Choire, when you lay down this sort of righteous anger, I get totally turned on. Maybe if you had a cigarette sticking out of your trousers...

Kevin
Kevin (#2,559)

I've been sharpening my pitchfork for the better part of 4 maybe 5 years now. I'm sooooo ready for this.

shaunr
shaunr (#726)

John Yoo is 42. Bybee, Addington, Haynes and Feith are all in their fifties.

European lawyers are no more forgetful or less patient than the US Justice Department's who waited for 30 years for Polanski to wander into the right territory.

Abe Sauer
Abe Sauer (#148)

Also, the outrage over this should really go hand in hand with this complete affront
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2010/01/hbc-90006368
as indicative of a government that at so many levels just doesn't feel it necessary to be held to account anymore which, in its seeming increasing pervasiveness, is SCARILY bordering on the kind of behavior we sanction other places for. But that people seem more upset about Julia Mancuso's ski run being cut early.. well... government we deserve I guess (??)

lost_in_transubstantiation

The only thing more outrageous than that Scott Horton's Guantanamo story is that it seems to have no legs whatsoever. I really don't get it.

Abe Sauer
Abe Sauer (#148)

God, I agree so much. Even NPR, which I COUNT on to bubble stuff like this up, did a short bit on it and it didn;t really seem to hook. Meanwhile, Science Friday's polar bears mating with grizzlies thing has got the phone bank on fire.

Then again, "something in Harper's doesn't have legs" is like a bumper sticker or something.

cherrispryte
cherrispryte (#444)

Considering it took 50 years for all of the WW2 communications to be declassified, I'm betting we're looking at a similar timeline. FOIA or not, this is going to be another one of those "everyone involved has to be dead before we're telling you anything" situations.

Tulletilsynet
Tulletilsynet (#333)

The Justice Department or Congress could investigate the disappearance of the e-mails without declassifying anything.

BeRightBack
BeRightBack (#59)

Wake me when he writes an overly long and inane profile of a smart young media figure.

RamonaRanchera

If we the people choose to play don't-ask-don't-tell with our elected representatives, then we the people will have to accept the consequences of their actions. You know, those consequences that take things away from us, or empty our wallets, or go bang. I don't understand why we aren't there yet, but that whole "Pretty much, as a nation, everything should come to a standstill until this is dealt with" sentiment (which I agree with whole-heartedly) didn't kick in after the financial meltdown either. I'm now genuinely fascinated by what it will take for we the people to become we the people in the streets with pitchforks and subpoenas.

bong hitler
bong hitler (#3,233)

Two-bit fall guys notwithstanding, the fact is if anyone makes any serious gestures in a prosecutorial direction as regards detainee mistreatment, a considerable fraction of the popluace will flip their shit so hard the Higgs boson will be found. This is just one of those matters we're going to have to leave to future historians, and get on with our lives. Don't know any Rwandans? Well you didn't know the guy in the trunk either.

lexalexander
lexalexander (#2,960)

It ain't just the Yoo e-mails. It's the e-mails pertaining to pretty much every damn Bush-era scandal except the illegal warrantless wiretapping, and maybe even that.

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