"I think the real and most fundamental problem Jews have with Palin is not her gleeful ignorance, but her willful divisiveness. More than any politician in memory, Palin seems to divide her fellow-Americans into first class and second class citizens, real Americans and not-so-real Americans. To do her justice, she has never said anything to suggest that Jews as Jews fall into the second, less-real, class. But Jews do tend to have an intuition that when this sort of line-drawing is done, we are likely to find ourselves on the wrong side."
-David Frum offers a theory on why Jews might not be favorably disposed to Sarah Palin.
Wednesday, January 6, 2010
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I'm just going to let you all know: we just don't like White Trash.
Or maybe it's just that she mixes dairy with meat. Because she's a fucking cheeseburger. And a shitty cheeseburger at that. Like, not even a Burger King microwaved piece of shit. Like a school lunch cheeseburger - TO WHICH SHE WOULD BE OPPOSED!
She's totally one of those cheeseburgers in foil with the really soft bun!
I just defamed cheeseburgers. And I love cheeseburgers. (Julius!)
Why must I always hurt the one I love? Sigh.
JULIUS! indeed.
That's it.
You see. I want to like Sarah Palin, because, in general, I really love cheeseburgers. So, like, I see this cheeseburger, straight off the grill and steaming hot. And at the first taste? I know something is wrong. So I want the cheeseburger to just go back into the kitchen, and I'll wait for a replacement. But the new one never arrives. It's the same goopy sloppy mushy thing with pungent artificial flavorings. This cheeseburger keeps arriving on my plate, and, damn it, but I really want a cheeseburger. But it's some bastardized version of a cheeseburger, and to make matters worse? I see the restaurant is full of people devouring the shit out of this artificial mutant fakery. And just to make the nightmare complete, I look outside and people who damn well know that this is not a goddamn cheeseburger are encouraging its consumption.
So yeah. She's a cheeseburger. The worst fucking cheeseburger ever.
the microwaveable cheeseburger that you buy when drunk from a convenience store and microwave at home, but, even when drunk, you can't force yourself to eat the disgusting grey thing, and then you wake up in the morning and there's nine tenths of a cheeseburger in your bed, next to your ear. [actually, that was more of a description of a one-night stand so regretable that you regret it before you even do anything, and not of sarah palin because i never picked her up, she jst turned up]. but yeah, it looks like a cheeseburger on the wrapper, and people must keep buying the product.
Grade D Meat, fit for human consumption.
Sounds like a lot of neoconservative dog whistle politics, with Frum basically saying "this is not the puppet we are looking for".
Buried in the article was this line:
"Fourth and last, Jews hate Palin because Jews disapprove of large families - and especially because Jews quietly favor the abortion of disabled children."
Um. Wow?
In fairness, that was drawn from the article this column responds to, and Frum distances himself from that position later on.
I know...I'm just wondering about that line and Jennifer Rubin. Didn't mean to make it sound like Frum was endorsed that belief. But Rubin sure put it out there.
Yeah, I looked that up in the original article to be sure Frum wasn't exaggerating. But it's a block quote! And Rubin doesn't go on to offer any actual facts to back up her claims. Crazy.
I'm a goy and I think it's barbaric to knowingly bring a disabled child in to this world. To me it's just another layer of her gross and willful ignorance.
I am not quite sure how you want to dress that concept up to make it palatable to people who think every sperm is precious.
Raise your hand if you just got that Monty Python song stuck in your head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8 ;)
So, kitten, not to sound too defensive here, but I have a genetic condition and there's a 50% chance of me passing that condition to any offspring. Was my choice to have a kid barbaric? And do the people who don't/didn't *knowingly* bring disabled children into the world get a pass on the barbaric thing?
On the other hand, Monty Python, hee!
Bittersweet, Your decision sounds as if there were more variables in play and somewhat grayer.
Is it 100% guaranteed that your child will never be a fully functioning adult? Did you already have four healthy children? W/r/t the knowingly part, Palin did know so that does not factor into this discussion.
So how do I dress up my opinion? Is "reckless disregard for the health, and well being of a child's life" a more apt descriptor than "barbaric" or does "cruel" work better?
And Bittersweet, would you ever be in a position to dictate whether or not I could have the choice to make the same decision myself? Because that is where Mrs. Palin wanted to be.
The idea that people can squeeze whole columns out of "why don't people like Sarah Palin?" is baffling to me. She is a moron. What more do you need to say?
Could you expand on that position a bit?
Well, if you'll indulge me in a Historical Pullback, in the World War I era, IQ tests were invented to sort children with slowed development into several discrete groups for educational purposes. The second-lowest of these groups, "morons," just a bit ahead of "sub-morons" and behind "idiots"...
Thanks! Add a Problem and you've got an article.
This is a Sarah Palin article. The Problem is inherent.
There's something about the combination of her moron-ness and her pluckiness that just... AGHHHH!!!
She's the Mean Cheerleader. You want to feel sorry for her, for being intellectually crippled, but then she's such an incredible bitch that it makes you vindictively satisfied about how deeply stupid she is underneath. And then you feel a little guilty about gloating over her stupidity, and then you read something that she says (about anything, really,) and there you are back at square one again.
You just relieved SO MUCH ANGST!
second that! i feel so relieved!
I think the real and most fundamental problem the vast majority of Americans has with Frum is not his sneering arrogance, but his willful divisiveness. More than any over-privileged Yale-educated pseudo-intellectual dick in memory, Frum seems to divide his fellow-Americans into business class and hippie class citizens, real Americans and not-so-real Americans. To do him justice, he has never said anything to suggest that the vast majority of Americans qua the vast majority of Americans falls into the second, less-real, class. But the vast majority of Americans does tend to have an intuition that when this sort of line-drawing is done, the vast majority of Americans is likely to find itself on the wrong side."
Ha!
Most amazing is that he manages to do all of these things, while being Canadian!
I just realized I should have subbed in "Canadian" for "dick," supra. Although maybe that's not really fair to dicks.
I thought Jews didn't like Sarah Palin because she's a dangerously incurious, crusading, evangelical wingnut who sees Jews as a means to an End (read: Armageddon,) and not an actual part of Real America, deserving of political and social consideration.
But then again, I also hate disabled children, so that could be coloring my perspective.
"incurious" is a synonym for "stupid", yes?
Frum got Denton's memo on uniques.
Well, here's one problem the Jews (and security guards) won't have to worry about anymore....the old-guy-Holocaust Museum-shooter just died in a prison hospital.
Good riddance to James Von Brunn.
Palin speech before NY synagogue, January 2011, partial text:
"Rabbi Horowitz, Rabbi Blaustein, the esteemed synagogue, ahh, delegates? And my fellow citizens here in this magnificent shul, this synagogue of prayer, kinda like a church but not since it's, you know, just ethnic, not like swarthy-ethnic but... in Alaska we have the Chabad Lubavitch in Anchorage, been there many times for Shanna Tovah and what not, so I am honored to be here and honored to be considered a candidate for the nomination for President of the United States! Shabbat Slalom!
Oy, where to begin! How about with this: I accept the challenge of a tough fight in this election... against confident, dare I say... meshugganah opponents ... at a crucial hour for our fatherland I should add.
It was just a year ago when all the experts in Washington and New York counted me out of the running because of my so-called "Jewish problem."
With their usual certitude, they told us that all was lost - there was no hope for this candidate who said that she would rather lose an election than see her country lose a war.
Well, let me ask you this: does the yarmulke I'm wearing make me look like I have a "Jewish problem"? Join me in a tip of the kippot to the naysayers. Anyone? Tip of the kippah? No? I'll just do a quick one for all of us.
And so to the pundits, I say, look who's kvetching now! Together, I'm proud to say we kicked their tukas...es. So let me say thank you all for your gelt and support, and may God bless America... and no one else."
This shiksa is never quite sure how to pluralize 'tukas' either. I don't like identifying with Sarah Palin!
I can hear the 'Shabbat Shalom.'
Hear it.
No, Slalom... like skiiing. Sorry. Failed Alskan snow and ski association.
Please No more Palin, I'm certain if her fans knew that she no longer gets under our collective Liberal, Libertarian, actual Conservative, socialist, marxist skins than they will no longer have a use for her. Palin exists for no other reason than to be contrarian and it's the only way she has had or will have any weight and our disgust with and sometimes outright hatred for her is relished by her attention/respect/information starved fans. I've found on several counts that in her fanbase that from some the only reason she gets love is because they think liberal opposition really fear her Because she is right about most issues and not for the other million reasons not to elect a person leader of the free world or to even like or respect them as a thinking feeling human being.
I am OK with Sarah Palin coverage so long as it...
1. Is on a blog
2. Is more about people's reaction (worth discussing!) than the woman herself (not so much)
3. Is not triggered by her latest famewhoring stunt
I would agree But she's always spilling off the Blogs because the News nets have their strange Fascination with what's going on in the 'Blogosphere'.
-then- goddamn.