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Wednesday, December 9, 2009

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"Is The American Dream Over?" Some Say Yes! Others, No! Some Shrug

CHATSYTimes bloggers Gail Collins and David Brooks are getting into it over, you know, the future of America and stuff. I love that they have, I guess, iChat now! Gail: When the bubble burst last year, I didn't see it as the end to our economic power. But I did wonder if it was the end of the American Dream, or at least the version we've come to regard as practically a national birthright. What do you think? If you have an encouraging response, I am prepared to embrace it wholeheartedly." David: [No Intelligible Answer].

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beingiseasy
beingiseasy (#1,735)

I love that in Brooks' response he says that American works nine weeks more than most of Western Europe but it's ok because we have a higher standard of living. Really David? I'd take 9 weeks vacation over that new flatscreen any day.

NicFit
NicFit (#616)

I hear ya. My dream is 3 months off a year.

Ronbo
Ronbo (#2,383)

Like to hang out with the Eurotrash? Then leave! I'll buy the airlines ticket for you. Just agree never to come back to the USA on pain of death.

balsa_wood
balsa_wood (#465)

LOL, RONBO!!!

KarenUhOh
KarenUhOh (#19)

They got paid to ruminate, which is about as bullseye on the American Dream as one can shoot the BB.

LondonLee
LondonLee (#922)

Collins: Americans used to be rich then some stuff happened and now they're not

Brooks: But they still have Applebees

NotAndersonCooper

Collins: It was a good dream until America woke up and had to pee. Can't get back to sleep.
Brooks: Cognitive fish interesting box think innovation box money word murder.

Ronbo
Ronbo (#2,383)

DUH!

In case you haven't noticed a radical socialist putsch happened last January and the new regime is pushing hard in the direction of communism. Or would that be fascism? In any case, capitalism is in the crosshairs of the collectivists and being shot full of holes daily like a B-17 over Berlin in 1943.

Thus the economy is in a state of collapse.

Meanwhile, the rebel alliance marches in Tea Parties while buying up massive amounts of guns and ammunition. America stands on the edge of the abyss of counter revolution while President Zero and his cabal play golf, as clueless to the steaming volcano of revolutionary violence about to erupt, as was the French ruling elite in 1789.

There will be blood. Perhaps in the spring after the winter of our discontent.

KarenUhOh
KarenUhOh (#19)

I need to buy a model tank for my nephew for Christmas, Ron. What do you recommend?

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

You need to mix more metaphor.

"There will be blood. Perhaps in the spring after the winter of our discontent. This is no country for old men. The dog will not bark at midnight when the emperor has no clothes"

I love how Ronbo has gone all Sans Culotte . Like he's itching to get into some pantaloons

grandpa27
grandpa27 (#804)

They have responsible discourse. All of you babbling bloggers are here sentenced to 3 hours of FOX news(?) 6 to 9. Study the reactionaries. Is this the American Dream?

Ronbo
Ronbo (#2,383)

The real reactionaries are the Leftards...The socialists...THE PROGRESSIVES who believe in crap like Global Warming. In an earlier age they believed the world was flat. REACTIONARY THY NAME IS DEMOCRAT!

myfanwy
myfanwy (#1,124)

Wouldn't progressives in an earlier age believe in a spherical Earth?

BlinkyMcChuck
BlinkyMcChuck (#202)

It's always weird to see Americans talk crap about how Europeans live. America has Stockholm Syndrome.

ContainsHotLiquid

So to speak.

BlinkyMcChuck
BlinkyMcChuck (#202)

Yeah. And I'm not talking about the Nobel.

lempha
lempha (#581)

I would say that David Brooks can't possibly think, "The problem is that we’ve experienced a cognitive revolution," but then I mean he IS David Brooks. His understanding of economics is seriously a work of art.

BlinkyMcChuck
BlinkyMcChuck (#202)

I know. It sort of makes me think of Karen Finley and the yams.

the Loud Coast
the Loud Coast (#1,362)

Perhaps Hunter Thompson already kind of nailed the "Death of the American Dream" story a few decades ago and Gail Collins is actually talking about something else?

I think Gail is referring to the american dream as "americans are awesome and deserve to be rich" while Thompson was more concerned with the "americans are awesome and deserve their 60's idealism" kind of dream?

I don't know, but it's interesting that journalist's return to this story in so many different ways.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

'The American Dream' is to journalism as 'The Temptation of St. Anthony' is to painting.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

Dream all you want - it's reality that is the problem.

myfanwy
myfanwy (#1,124)

Reality: cramping my style since 1984.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

srsly.

Steve
Steve (#1,777)

What are American Dreamer's thoughts?

withelectrolytes

Those two are totally boning.

myfanwy
myfanwy (#1,124)

Apathetically.

Mackle
Mackle (#446)

Why are these people constantly on the same page as Krugman?

Really. Can someone explain this to me?

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