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On Our Government-Funded Mission to Make Haiti Christian: Your Tax Dollars, Billy Graham's Son, Monsanto and Sarah Palin

Sorry to disappoint. I prefer my anonymity. And my just believe me approach. They help me sleep at night.

1. So they are not the same organization by design? But are the same organization because they work together?

2. Graham's overall compensation wasn't my point. The fact that you were comparing apples to oranges was. You compared his reported compensation to avg.CEO's salary. Not their compensation which was 9 million. But maybe you're right. SP and the BGEA aren't completely transparent. Maybe they're funneling 8 million plus to Graham and the rest of their employees with their government money. Even if Graham's salary was this high is it too high for good he has done? even though it's in Jesus' name?

3. What do you mean by proselytizing? How do you define it? Is your definition the same as the BGEA and SP? Is including a Bible/track with aid proselytizing/evangelism whether the recipient reads it or not? Is it wrong to believe something and tell others about it? Or only wrong if it's religion?

4. I've only seen a few. I haven't searched endlessly I have to admit so could I get links or copies of the ones you're citing?

5. Nice use of the word cahoots. (not sarcastic). I'm not proving they don't work together. But wouldn't you imagine two organizations to work together if they shared the same CEO? They admitted to working together. Not being in cahoots to steal taxpayer money.

Posted on January 24, 2011 at 9:46 am 0

On Our Government-Funded Mission to Make Haiti Christian: Your Tax Dollars, Billy Graham's Son, Monsanto and Sarah Palin

Abe,

1. Saying if you read my article and noting that BGEA's press office responds for inquiry about Samaritan's Purse still does not prove they are the same organization. They have the same CEO. It shouldn't be surprising that they work together or share resources (probably to save money because they are actually really careful about donated funds or grants received from the gov't).

2."Graham's salary" of a million a year is his combined COMPENSATION of running two major NGO's. Average S&P 500 CEO salary was around a million but their total compensation was 9 in 2009 according to a AFL-CIO analysis of pay data from 292 companies provided by salary.com.

3. Proselytizing and evangelism are considered two different thing in development. You can note that they are for evangelism and against proselytizing, which again is requiring conversion for their services. But good job uncovering the conspiracy of a couple Christian organizations evangelizing. I'm sure when they provided spiritual support they were trying to hide the evangelistic work of their evangelical organization.

4. One time I saw a man rob someone. I heard of another who murdered someone. Therefore men are evil. No. That's ridiculous. You can't take two observations and apply them to the entire population. It's possible that all men have those characteristics or behaviors but highly unlikely. I find it hard to believe that you would be swayed by that weak argument and poor logic against men. This is oversimplified but you get the idea. There are very few reputable reports that corroborate yours. My experience with these organizations is completely contradictory to the picture you paint and so are their corporate governance documents, statements of faith, and job applications. The burdon of proof is on you b/c your statements conflict with the prevailing reputation.

5. the BGEA's admission. Yea... I think that conspiracy theorists who lack an understanding for relief and aid work surprisingly find conspiracies in things they don't understand.

http://www.billygraham.org/financialcommitment.asp
http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/Who_We_Are/Financial_Accountability/

Posted on January 23, 2011 at 2:27 am 0

On Our Government-Funded Mission to Make Haiti Christian: Your Tax Dollars, Billy Graham's Son, Monsanto and Sarah Palin

Abe,

I think you need more proof than a copied blog post to claim that Grahams two jobs are actually one. Just saying.

And even if you put both of his salaries and compensation together (though i though he gave up one of his salaries) he still makes very little compared to for profit CEO's. Which is the level of pay you should be comparing his to.

I think the concerns you bring up about development are very important. Proselytizing, requiring conversion or listening to a sermon in order to receive aid, is not practiced/endorsed by Samaritans Purse or World Vision You seem to have made very many accusations without very much proof. These organizations are very large. They hire predominately Christian workers. It is likely that some forms of proselytizing have occurred but it is almost certainly not the norm. You need more than one or two outliers.

It's clear that you care about relief work and how your taxes are spent. It is also clear that you make weak arguments held up by emotional fiction and sensationalism.

Posted on January 22, 2011 at 4:21 pm 0