@deepomega Oh for God's sake, now I'm seeing your version of the argument all over the place, so yeah, I guess it's part of the discourse. I still think it's backpedaling doublespeak to cover up the original intent of those terms, like when they say "welfare recipients" but really mean "lazy n****rs". UGH, tonight I drink with monkeys and await the meteors.
@deepomega Also, I thought evolution was a big no-no?
@deepomega Already got one, but thanks anyway.
@deepomega Seeing as the right is pretty much an intellectual cesspool, you're quite right to assume that. In fact, you yourself are engaging in the same kind of shenanigans by attempting to decouple Akin's use of the word "legitimate" from the rest of his preposterous statement.
@deepomega Sorry, deepo, but a link to the that loathsome toad Erick Erickson is never "good". He's a deeply stupid partisan hack who, in this case, is deploying semantics to obfuscate the very real, long-standing and well-documented belief of the anti-choice religious right (and of the GOP, according to their current platform) that "legitimate", "forceful" rape does not likely result in pregnancy, and therefore women who claim to have become pregnant as a result of rape are probably liars.
@hockeymom Imagine a culture that practices female circumcision or honor killings, then dial it back a notch or two. That's how they think of the roles of the women in their lives.
@DMcK In other words, the assumption is not that some women might lie about having been raped in order to procure an abortion; it is that many, if not most women who claim to have been raped and are pregnant as a result are liars, or were "asking for it".
@deepomega Well, in all honesty I've never heard that version of the argument before, and it hasn't been bandied about to defend Akin's statement, so I'd love to know where it's source lies. The belief in question that anti-choicers like Akin have been citing is that "legitimate", "forceful", "honest" rape DOES NOT LEAD TO PREGNANCY due to some kind of magical being-raped power that women possess. Ergo, if the victim does become pregnant, then her claim of rape is not "legitimate" or "honest", and that she most likely was not "forcefully" penetrated. At least that's the context I understand.
By "out of control", they of course mean "OFF THE HOOK!".
@DMcK Here's a nice, concise rundown of the history of this belief.