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By Multiphasic on Man Struck By Bike

@John Herrman That context isn't 100% clear. When the thrust of the--admittedly insane--column is that bicyclists need to be reigned in so as to stop hurting people, defensiveness comes off too easily as implying, no, there's no problem with me hurting people. Especially when you frame it comparatively to the dangers posed by cars; it comes off like saying it's fine if I punch people because at least I'm not shooting them.

The other commenters' insistence on explaining all the many stupid things pedestrians do that get them hurt (and, very rarely, killed) seemed even more like a total abnegation of responsibility. "If the pedestrians weren't so stupid, we wouldn't hit them," edges pretty close to, "It's okay if we hit pedestrians so long as they are acting stupid."

I get now that the basic problem with the piece was the dim presumption of a telepathic understanding of the bicyclist, but it really isn't terribly sympathetic to--indeed basically ignores--the fact that many people are afraid of being hit by a bicycle.

Posted on September 25, 2014 at 11:12 am 2

By TheRtHonPM on Man Struck By Bike

@John Herrman But the way your piece comes across is this: because these external factors exist, bikers don't need to accept criticism of their actions.

Posted on September 25, 2014 at 9:48 am 2

By sharilyn on Man Struck By Bike

Look, pedestrians ALWAYS have the right of way. We (cyclists AND motorists) ought not to be traveling so fast that we can't adjust for unpredictability within city limits.

That said, NYC pedestrians are extra annoying and unpredictable. Please, please, put your phone away, be minimally aware of your surroundings, and get out of the bike lane.

Also monsters: every cyclist riding the wrong way in the bike lane without lights/helmet who expects ME to make room for THEM. And cars double parked in the bike lane - YOU'RE RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE.

Posted on September 25, 2014 at 9:18 am 3

By sharilyn on Man Struck By Bike

@Samuel915 Wow. I actually give up my seat to pregnant/elderly/disabled people on the subway because I want them to be comfortable - NOT because I fear recrimination from my fellow riders. And I give pedestrians the right of way while I'm riding for an even MORE practical (and less idealistic) reason: if I hit them, it's going to delay me, and I want to get where I'm going.

Posted on September 25, 2014 at 9:12 am 1

By TheRtHonPM on Man Struck By Bike

@happymisanthrope It's not hypocritical, as I'm sure you are a fine and upstanding cyclist who never breaks traffic laws for your own convenience. But we seem to agree that cyclists who are assholes to pedestrians deserve to be yelled at, and that's all I'm going for here.

Posted on September 25, 2014 at 8:44 am 3

By TheRtHonPM on Man Struck By Bike

@happymisanthrope I'm surprised at the apparent lack of irony or tension between these two ideas: that cars are dangerous to bikes, so cars should respect bikes; and bikes are dangerous to pedestrians, so pedestrians need to get out of the way.

Posted on September 24, 2014 at 7:14 pm 2

By TheRtHonPM on Man Struck By Bike

@Drew Robertson I can point to several examples of a pedestrian being killed or critically hurt by a cyclist e.g. riding on the sidewalk, going the wrong way down a one-way street, and so on. I know of zero examples of a cyclist hitting a wayward pedestrian and the cyclist dying, leaving the pedestrian largely unscathed.

Posted on September 24, 2014 at 3:07 pm 2

By abd5a171a8000000 on Man Struck By Bike

We are all assholes, everyone of us.

Posted on September 24, 2014 at 2:37 pm 3

By TheRtHonPM on Man Struck By Bike

@mushr00m I wouldn't agree, knowing nothing about the accident, because it is the biker's responsibility to avoid pedestrians, being heavier and faster. Much like it is the car driver's responsibility to avoid bikes.

Posted on September 24, 2014 at 2:05 pm 2

By TheRtHonPM on Man Struck By Bike

Yes, I agree that cars don't respect bikes. How does it follow that, THEREFORE, bikes can be dicks to pedestrians? Are you serious?

Posted on September 24, 2014 at 1:49 pm 4