@rhetoricpig - For the record ... I think Kat is stunning. Not to sidetrack the thread. Signing off again.
@metoometoo Ooooh there you go with spouting of your philosophical interpretations followed up by equally as ignorant throat cutting. I'd be obliged to side with the recidivism discussion but you're a nasty snide gal with your shiny new opinions of the world and I also realize that problems can only really be fixed one at a time ... and not with this "me now, me now!!" all at once demand.
You want progress or you want to cut throats, @metoometoo?
I'm sorry, is your addiction clouding your judgement? Glad this country isn't run just on what you want. Guess I'll flag this post up too since you don't want me to do that. You're a pointless / small person bent on derailing a good fight.
@Diana Leigh@facebook - The threats of violence come from people in your camp. The Council's claims are just correlating what I hear. You have people on other discussion boards threatening violence and claiming to be in your camp. Perhaps pinkertons but still problematic. As for Oakland - Oakland had it's own set of violent protestors who threw stuff at police officers. You don't get to throw rocks at authorities and then get mad when they react. Oakland had been given fair warning. People who live across the street from Oakland Occupy tell a different story from yours as well which correlates with violent occupiers. And let's not forget - Oakland isn't really known for containing a logical and sensible set of residents in the first place.
Anyway - the basic message here Diane is that what you're "being told" on the inside and by media isn't what I, and other surrounding residents, are seeing and hearing from other sources beyond media and what the occupiers claim. Something is way disjointed and way off.
@metoometoo - Because the issue isn't drugs. It's economic meltdown. Stay focused.
@SeanP "What constitutes?" Well ... the law does. Illegal drugs are illegal. And if Occupy can't respect the law then it is no longer purposeful. Then that just leaves you with frat boy behavior and alcoholics. So say - this is a serious matter and not a frat party, take the party to the bar.
This movement is supposed to be a bottom line ordeal and the bottom line is economic failure is an adult issue. If no one wants to deal with it like an adult then the rest of the world doesn't have to take "the movement" seriously. If people can't set aside their greedy tendencies (drugs are an act of greedy behavior) then nothing will get achieved. And the battle is lost. Simple as that.
@Diana Leigh@facebook - I wont be going to the grounds of Occupy but like I said, if you have names and incidents and proof ... i.e. pictures, video and documentation then send them my way. I am writing up several stories on pinkertons in your camp.
@Homey - Again - you've typed another sentence / thought that makes no sense.
@Homey Oh go cry me a river with your play by play talking points while I deal with the real issues between some logical people in your camp, the City Attorney and City Council. You're rhetoric is thoughtless and solutionless. If you want an argument - meet me at 2nd and Spring and we can just go at it like kindergartners since that is what you're more accustomed too.
@Diana Leigh@facebook - Also from a residents POV - I am behaving on behalf of the residents and not on behalf of the encampment. I know it sounds harsh but please try to understand the predicament. Two more things. I am an investigative writer before a waitress - ;) If you have any notes you want to share with corrupt individuals, please send it my way. Find me on twitter and we'll go from there. Last thing - I am working on a possible consideration of a law suit and most definitely an article about the Adeju's and their Power of Green tax payer scam. The more backed by facts issues I can find with some of the people in your camp - the more I'll publicly write them off.
@rhetoricpig - Thanks. Nice not to be brow beaten for trying to live in a home for once. I answered Diane's reply above. Give it a read and lmk what you think. There's nothing wrong with a take two.