@vunder I am so with you on both of these. if I got married I would not want bridesmaids as I can't hack the thought of forcing my friends to wear the same dress (and shoes and hair and jewellery argh). if I did have to have bridesmaids I would be like 'wear clothes'.
I am a proud non-participant in bouquet tosses for a good two years now. At one of the nicest weddings I went to, the bride presented her mum with her bouquet as a thankyou. I thanked the bride afterwards for not putting the rest of us through that and the bride, a former long-time single, said, 'Oh of course not! I would never do that to someone else! How awful!'. So lovely.
@WaityKatie because life has to be about matching pairs, like we are all animals in the ark.
@katward I'm 30, I still think she's a role model - but then I only read this book for the first time 2 years ago?
@Sunday @twitter Fuck yeah, my rant about her is above
@highjump Yes indeed :(
now whoooo wants to put on big white floofy dresses and run off to marry the Tarleton twins (both of 'em!)?
ME ME ME ME ME
@The Lady of Shalott omg omg omg so awesome yay for discussion time of GWTW!
I was just saying this in another thread on the hairpin the other day, so I'm going to quote/paraphrase myself from there: Melanie is a fucking bitch. Everyone thinks she is Miss Suzy Fucking Sunshine, but a schemer lurks between the mild surface, ready to suck up to and play on others' emotions in order to safeguard her own interests.
I do really love Scarlett - I love her because she is flawed and bitchy and real. I think that because we get all her bitchy inner monologue, it's easy to miss that when things get difficult, many times she chooses to protect or work with Melanie rather than abandon her. and I think that reflects the true nature of their relationship - they weren't :friends:, they were sisters-in-law, and it was a very sisterly relationship. Obligation, tied together in many ways, very different but reliant/loyal to the other one in the difficult times. yes Scarlett would have stolen Ashley if she could, but she couldn't. So Melanie isn't as good as she appears, and Scarlett isn't as bad as she appears, and they balance well.
Ashley Wilkes is a wilting flower, I always wish that Scarlett would wise up years before to this!
The racism is bullshit of course and you have to wade through that :( I did like what someone said above about mitchell being a misanthrope, but still... awful.
I call bullshit. Could all be explained much more simply: 'The system is biased towards these outlets, and they are mostly written about for men, by men.' Whenever someone says 'well the women just aren't there' it's usually a pretty good bet that someone couldn't be bothered to look.
Also, that Kate Bolick piece? Please tell me how that was not 'big, serious, ambitious' reporting? I think that these issues facing women - women who want to get married and have kids but can't (lack of a partner, infertility); women who want to be happily single and not have people call them freaks for it; ditto for women who are partnered but don't want kids - are VERY big, serious and ambitious matters. It's the same as always: women's lives are small, trivial, invisible; the minutiae of men's lives are big, profound, worth examining.
@boyofdestiny In Australia, high school is years 7-12 in most states, up until recently was years 8-12 in Queensland, and is years 7-10 in the Australian Capital Territory. In the ACT, years 11-12 are called college.
@s. Yeah, here's hoping the hairpin team are on track for a singles' thread on Valentine's Day...
@kamakiri Best of luck. For what it's worth, there's a distinct pattern of alcoholics and teetotallers in my family, so it's not an issue I can just turn off by not drinking; and I've observed a few other friends doing alcohol-free times in the last year or so (apart from all the new mothers, there are heaps of those). I also miss the fun aspect, but it's worth it to feel better.