Thursday, January 10th, 2013

Is New York Losing The Restaurant War To The Bay Area?

All of you in SF or NYC just be happy and grateful you don't have to try to eat out anywhere else in America, except New Orleans or LA.Two statements heard on the KQED Forum show's "Restaurant Roundup" segment, just now, that might trigger a response from you, the restaurant diner:

  • "San Francisco starts the restaurant trends, and New York grows them."
  • "New York has twice* the population, but San Francisco has the better restaurants."

* Yes we know that's not at all true; the NYC metropolitan area has 19 million people; the Bay Area has 4.5 million people.

Photo by Orbakhopper.

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BadUncle (#153)

"New York has quadruple the population, but San Francisco has the lion's share of insufferable twats."


cb20005 (#11,854)

I'd say New York is also behind Los Angeles and New Orleans in terms of influence. New York might have more food trends than anywhere else but the rest of the world doesn't adopt them very often (nor do they last long in NY).

@cb20005 Did you say "influence" or "flatulence"? Go Yanks!

deepomega (#1,720)

What possible trend are they taking credit for? Serving water in those glass caraffs with the plastic stopper on top?

melis (#1,854)

It's not those big communal tables either; that credit lies squarely with Benihana.

melis (#1,854)

It sounds disingenuous to say it now, but no one saw the war coming, not even the truffle survivalists who had taken over the foie gras fields in the Presidio and shot anyone foolish or fog-besotted enough to cross the Lobe Lines.

No one saw the war coming, so no one had the sense to get out before the killing started.

Astigmatism (#1,950)

Sorry SF, New Yorkers figured out how to put lettuce on a plate all on their lonesome.

iantenna (#5,160)

who gives a fuck? i'll be across the bay in oakland eating tacos (and pupusas, and larb, and…) and saving a shitload of money.

whizz_dumb (#10,650)

@iantenna shshshsh While the San Francisco/New York comparisons and elitist competitions are annoying, I'm just glad whenever the beans are not being spilled about beautiful neighborhoods in Oakland where I can afford a one bedroom to myself and it's not as dangerous as the reputation. Shit, what did I just do? Just kidding! If you are white you will get mugged at gunpoint in Oakland within minutes and there is nothing fun to do in the East Bay. All the bars suck and the food is inedible. (Actually my buddy did get mugged recently, but that happens in every city.)

Do whatever you want, just make sure you do everything in your power to keep the A's in Oakland, please?

Do whatever you want, just make sure you do everything in your power to keep the A's in Oakland, please?

iantenna (#5,160)

@Clarence Rosario i have the bumper sticker and routinely curse lew wolff under my breath. is that sufficient?

Jinxie (#240,695)

@whizz_dumb I've long been on the "SF Rules/Oakland Drools" team, but the older I get the more tired I am of paying a shit-ton of money to live with roommates and Oakland's starting to look pretty appealing. Plus just the other day a lady waiting for the bus in my 'hood was tazed in the motherf'ing FACE by a mugger attempting to steal her phone so it's not like it's any safer here. I'm not sure a few extra restaurants make up for a high chance of face-tazing.

scrooge (#2,697)

@Jinxie FYI, I have a great 2BR apartment for rent in a pretty little cul de sac just off Fruitvale around 24th St. Am I allowed to say that here, or would that be regarded as a shameless mis-use of commentary?

iantenna (#5,160)

@scrooge those cul de sacs that end at sausal creek are rad. weird little quiet oases a block from the bustle of fruitvale. plus you're close to the pizza hut which is a major selling point.

Leon (#6,596)

Finding a city is like finding a lover. "Best" for one of us can be radically different than another.

Also, some cities are really into third base, but they're no good at it, and at first you're like "Oh man, I wish Sheboygan would chill it with that," but then you realize maybe Sheboygan thinks you're not a very good kisser but is kind enough to be holding out hope that in your time together you improve, plus, it's the gesture that counts, and you're just getting to know each other, you have plenty of time to work it out, ya know? So you just don't say anything, and then suddenly you've been living in the Bratwurst Capital of the World for 30 years, you have grown kids you love, and they touch you there, and it still isn't right, and all of the resentment just spills out at once.

And a week later, you're living in Boise.

inkmine (#240,687)

FYI the population of the SF Bay Area is actually 7.1 million, not 4.5 million, according to the 2010 Census:

And yet NYC can't figure out how to grow the burrito trend?

SF does lead the league in Waiting Outside For Brunch.

Look, man, it's JUST Tartine.

Niko Bellic (#1,312)

@Harriet Kierkegaard@facebook Yeah, if there is one thing worse than eating outside of your own home, it's actually standing outside of any kind of protection, all exposed to sun and air like that!

Multiphasic (#411)

The other main difference between SF and NYC: anything anyone says to Michael Krasny has to be taken with a grain of salt that leads into a shot of tequila, whereas Brian Lehrer seems to take the shot before he listens to anyone else.

dado (#102)

Irish coffees at the Buena Vista and soup in a bread bowl. That's all I remember.

alorsenfants (#139)

I will mention it one more time — there is a seminal piece in a 1990's issue of Spy Magazine by Joe Queenan about the relative merits of San Francisco vs. Los Angeles — in which Los Angeles comes out ahead by like 20 lengths (track parlance). It doesn't seem to be on the Net — but if you e-mail me, I'll send you a copy.

Having said that — if L.A. can trounce San Francisco in such a fashion — And Queenan Is Right! — can you imagine who wins in a contest between that twee city and New York?!!!


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