Monday, December 5th, 2011
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People Still Arguing About Bicycles

"Are urban bicyclists just elite snobs?" Don't ask me! I prefer to ponder considerably less contentious queries like, "Who has it harder, white women or black men?"

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freetzy (#7,018)

The only elitist who compelled Chicago to be more bike friendly was Mayor Daley, who fucking loves bikes.

boyofdestiny (#1,243)

What do we think about Odd Future?

deepomega (#1,720)

@boyofdestiny They have cut the gordian knot of women in hip-hop!

laurel (#4,035)

Oh, Salon. You are so part of the problem with this handwringing. The time to care about people's feelings and attitudes has passed. You're now dumbing down the dialog about climate change.

With the globe at 390 PPM CO2 and rising by 2 PPM each year, well past the 350 PPM tipping point, if you're reducing carbon emissions, you're in the right. If you're offended by others' sense of growing urgency and using that as an excuse to not reduce carbon emissions, you're in the wrong. And also stupid and horrible.

Tulletilsynet (#333)

@laurel
That moment of establishing who is in the wrong and stupid and horrible is so satisfying!

laurel (#4,035)

@Tulletilsynet It really, really is. I totally had that "Done and Done!" feeling.

Tulletilsynet (#333)

@laurel
Mm. Always a useful feeling to go around with when struggling to build a consensus.

laurel (#4,035)

@Tulletilsynet Yes, I was being bratty, but at 40 PPM past the tipping point, feelings about arrogance and cycling aren't relevant anymore. It's too late for consensus building. Leadership backed by the best science we have is the only thing that could help now.

Tulletilsynet (#333)

@laurel
Oh right, leadership. What country are you living in? Where I am, we still have to get the votes.

What's with cyclists riding the subway? It fucks with MY commute.

deepomega (#1,720)

@NotAndersonCooper Yeah but it gives you really good numbers on your iphone bike-commute tracking app.

jfruh (#713)

@NotAndersonCooper In Berlin you need to buy a ticket for your bicycle! MARKET-BASED SOLUTIONS.

LondonLee (#922)

Biking to work is fine, but do you have to do it dressed like you're racing in the Tour De France?

laurel (#4,035)

@LondonLee No. No, you do not!

jfruh (#713)

Am I allowed to simultaneously feel contempt for the lady I saw riding a grown-up sized tricycle in the bike lane the other day but also kind of want one for myself?

Rosebud (#4,107)

@jfruh WHAT. How does one summon enough gall to ride a grown-up sized tricycle in public?

Tulletilsynet (#333)

@Rosebud
Sometimes a trike is extremely practical.

Claire Zulkey (#7,101)

They're snobs when they're in my way but when I'm on one, hey man, I'm just trying to get around.

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