Mo's religion is inseparably tied to his family and culture, so be sensitive to the fact that if he rejects Islam, his family and culture will reject and perhaps even plot to kill him.
@offthewawl I was about to quote that. It's genius. Especially when it goes on to say: "What this means is that Mo has to carefully weigh all the consequences of trusting Christ, so give him time and make sure you don't make trusting Christ sound flippant."
I think Christ often sounded flippant, he was basically the fourth character from Clueless.
The only thing that prevented him from being No. 1 on this list is that bracelet he's wearing. I figure that probably prevents him from getting laid as often as he could.
@swizzard "Paschal's Wager" is one of the single stupidest things I've ever read. "Well, it works out better if you're wrong about Christianity than if you're wrong about atheism/agnosticism." That's your sales pitch?
@swizzard anyone who depends on Pascal's wager (however they choose to spell it) is going to be on really shaky ground with me anyway. It's the usual problem with these kinds of arguments – talk about the costs of the other guy' position while depicting yours as "free". Sure, I could bet that I need Jesus's favor to make it to a possibly non-existent heaven… but that would mean giving up a lot of drinking and fornicating right now!
@swizzard The problam with Pascal's wager is that you could apply to any number of insane beliefs, and it would remain equally valid.
For example, what if I were to tell you that, according to my religion, you have to stand naked in a dark closet with mayonnaise smeared all over your body for 15 minutes every Tuesday morning, or else you'll burn in Hell for eternity after you die?
If you did this Tuesday morning closet ritual for your whole life and the Hell thing turned out to be false, the worst outcome you'll suffer is wasting a fair amount of mayonnaise-covered time in a dark closet. No big deal, right?
But if it turns out my religion is right and you DON'T do this thing, you'll suffer eternal torture in Hell. That's much worse!
Ergo: You should stand naked in a closet, covered in mayonnaise, for 15 minutes every Tuesday morning – because Pascal's wager says so!
The pictures make nice metaphor for how certain fundamentalists view the world, I think. Basically, in their minds, everyone is wearing a black T-shirt with a single "worldview" stenciled on it.
@MisterHippity Also, I like that the Muslim is (presumably) hispanic. "We don't know any brown people from that other hemisphere. You'll have to do, Manuel!"
Mo's religion is inseparably tied to his family and culture, so be sensitive to the fact that if he rejects Islam, his family and culture will reject and perhaps even plot to kill him.
@offthewawl I think, as a general rule, proseletyzers should always be sensitive to the "family may plot to kill them" thing.
@offthewawl I was about to quote that. It's genius. Especially when it goes on to say: "What this means is that Mo has to carefully weigh all the consequences of trusting Christ, so give him time and make sure you don't make trusting Christ sound flippant."
I think Christ often sounded flippant, he was basically the fourth character from Clueless.
Horribly disappointed that not one of those characters is Allison Hannigan, not even the one named Willow.
@runsinbackground As long as she's not Willow Smith, I'm fine by it.
From what I hear, Sid the Satanist is total slut.
The only thing that prevented him from being No. 1 on this list is that bracelet he's wearing. I figure that probably prevents him from getting laid as often as he could.
m/f/k?
Not on the list: Eugene the Eunich
Being at #4 only demonstrates willingness, not opportunity.
Also: where's Bert the Baha'i?
Suri the Scientologist?
Zeke the Zoroastrian?
Manucher the Mandean?
@Butterscotch Stalin Agnes the Agnostic? Rosie the Rosicrucian? Theophilus the Theosophist?
@Butterscotch Stalin Jane the Jain?
Kebede the Copt?
Sandra the Santerian?
Sardul the Sikh?
@Butterscotch Stalin They call me "Ned the Nihilist." (Not really.)
How about Patrick the Protestant Who Thinks The Name For His People Is "Christian" Even Though, You Know, Catholics Also Believe in Jesus.
Xena the Zoroastrian if we're playing phonetically.
@HiredGoons Zuzu and Zolio would beg to differ.
Minnie the Moocher
You know why I put Willow the Wiccan at No. 1 on the list? Because she has JBF hair.
Check it out.
"Also like Alisha the Agnostic, try to work what is called 'Paschal's Wager' into the conversation…"
Just…wow.
@swizzard That's only effective if you know they don't want to be passed over during the Rapture. Or… or they do… I'm confused.
@swizzard "Paschal's Wager" is one of the single stupidest things I've ever read. "Well, it works out better if you're wrong about Christianity than if you're wrong about atheism/agnosticism." That's your sales pitch?
@swizzard anyone who depends on Pascal's wager (however they choose to spell it) is going to be on really shaky ground with me anyway. It's the usual problem with these kinds of arguments – talk about the costs of the other guy' position while depicting yours as "free". Sure, I could bet that I need Jesus's favor to make it to a possibly non-existent heaven… but that would mean giving up a lot of drinking and fornicating right now!
@swizzard The problam with Pascal's wager is that you could apply to any number of insane beliefs, and it would remain equally valid.
For example, what if I were to tell you that, according to my religion, you have to stand naked in a dark closet with mayonnaise smeared all over your body for 15 minutes every Tuesday morning, or else you'll burn in Hell for eternity after you die?
If you did this Tuesday morning closet ritual for your whole life and the Hell thing turned out to be false, the worst outcome you'll suffer is wasting a fair amount of mayonnaise-covered time in a dark closet. No big deal, right?
But if it turns out my religion is right and you DON'T do this thing, you'll suffer eternal torture in Hell. That's much worse!
Ergo: You should stand naked in a closet, covered in mayonnaise, for 15 minutes every Tuesday morning – because Pascal's wager says so!
It looks like one of those birding spotters guides :/ Except you generally can't tell if a bird is giving you a "fuck off and die" look.
The pictures make nice metaphor for how certain fundamentalists view the world, I think. Basically, in their minds, everyone is wearing a black T-shirt with a single "worldview" stenciled on it.
@MisterHippity Also, I like that the Muslim is (presumably) hispanic. "We don't know any brown people from that other hemisphere. You'll have to do, Manuel!"
I enjoy the distinction between the Atheistic Evolutionist and the Atheist.