Some Brief Impressions Of The Village Voice Choice Eats Event, Including Thoughts On The Term "Foodie"
Walking up to the 69th Armory in Gramercy (Is that what that area at 26th street and Lexington is called? Or is that Murray Hill? I always have trouble differentiating it as anything other than the place where the people-I-went-to-college-with-who–I-don't-necessarily-really-hang-out-with-anymore-although-they-still-show-up-on-my-Gchat-and-I-definitely-read-their-status-messages-on-the-reg live and consider themselves to be "downtown.") and seeing the line of half Asian/half not-Asian people wrap, literally, around the entire block, you would have thought the Village Voice's food event Choice Eats would be a complete disaster. But once you entered the large room, sectioned off convention-style with booths and booths of restaurants, it was actually pretty organized and without that really crowded feeling that comes with things that are poorly conceived and then oversold. Honestly, the woman who walked by me while talking loudly to her friend said it best when she rhetorically asked (not to me): "How many pulled pork sandwiches can one person eat?"
Here's some of what you, if you weren't there, missed:
Asian people are really into food and taking pictures of food. A few weeks ago, writer Ben Detrick tweeted an intensely correct observation identifying Yelp as, "The internet's premier site for learning what Asian women think about restaurants," and about half of the Choice Eats event felt like an IRL Yelp. There were lots of Asian girls with SLRs hanging around their neck standing in my way as I tried to get to the Del Posto chocolate and eggplant dish. The other half of the Choice Eats was just normie white people. Nothing new to see here, folks.
"Foodies." Are you into food? Cool! I 100% agree that eating is great. In fact, some food is really dope. You know what undermines all of these positive sentiments I have towards you, person who also agrees with me that food can invoke some real genuine happiness? The fact that you're calling yourself a "foodie." I don't know why this term is so offensive, maybe it's because there's a sort of implied haughtiness or something, but you're better than that. We clearly have a lot in common, let's not ruin what we have going.
But is it a VALUE? A weird phenomenon that happens in the city is people's willingness to wait and wait and wait for things that they perceive to be a deal. On days when there's free or really cheap ice cream or yogurt, you'll see long, long lines of people, often in suboptimal weather, just waiting for the opportunity to save (no more than) $1-$2. I actually love savings, so I get how and why this happens, but it seems like, at some point, you have to respect yourself and your time and value it more for more than $1-$2 for an hour. So where does Choice Eats fall on this scale? Well, on the one hand, there is a line, and it was very, very long. But on the other hand, you're essentially paying $35-45 to eat and drink as much as you want of this pretty good food. Now, I can't tell you how to live your life, but I think this one leans more on the value side of the spectrum. So keep that in mind for next year.
Photo by Jeffrey Tastes, from Flickr.








I consider myself a commentie, and I'm snidely judging all of the people below me.
The problem I have with foodies is that are you really trying to out-smug others with a basic need that that a large portion of the world's population is still in need of?
Besides, guess who else is really into food? EVERYONE ELSE.
As with so many other things I enjoy to the point of high-mindedness, I have to consume junk for balance. For every perfectly smoked and seasoned pork sandwich, I eat one bologna on white. For every obscure EP by a band comprised of iterant farm laborors (or whatever it is the cool kids are into today), there's the new Cee-Lo joint.
Don't want anyone to think I've risen above my station, you know?
My solution to this conundrum is to use bacon fat, a lot.
Breathies and sleepies are coming.
But everyone is not really into food! Some (usually rich, priviledged) people just don't care about it, and some are convinced that FOOD IS THE ENEMY. I think there was a moment in time (and that moment has definitely passed) but I think there was a moment when, in specific sub-sub-cultures, it was kind of a big deal to say "No. you know what? I like food, I enjoy eating it, and I'm going to go out of my way to find and make food I enjoy." …. and the people saying that were foodies.
This is a true statement. I have plenty of friends who live on Kraft EasyMac and think that anything on the far side of green beans is poison. I could point to my wife's old boss – at a fashion house, of course – who ate Balance Bars for breakfast and lunch, and one of those frozen-and-mailed-to-you-30-days-at-a-time diet meals for dinner, because "any money I spend on food is a waste because I'm not spending it on clothes." Or I could just point to the idiot produce guy at a supermarket near my in-laws, who when I asked if they had watercress he looked at me like I was speaking Welsh, then snidely asked if I was the guy who had called him earlier that day to ask if they had arugula (I was not, but seriously – arugula is the shit). Compared to those people, maybe, I certainly understand people who actually like food as being a distinct subculture.
None of that excuses the level of vitriol and snobbishness about Manhattan ramen shops on Chowhound, but still. (And the answer, BTW, is Men Kui Tei.)
Pick a word that doesn't make you sound like an oddly judgmental five year old, is all! Loving food is great! The word "foodie" is an abomination.
I think it's more to describe the kind of person who is going to be rhapsodizing for ages over e.g. the gnocchi at thus and such a place. Some people love to hear and/or produce those rhapsodies, and some do not. Hence the need for a name.
@deepomega I'd love a different one! Can you think of one?
Hasn't the answer always been "gourmet"?
(And to all of those who say "gourmand" instead, I hate you.)
"Foodie" is like "hipster" now, where the term has become more and more overloaded in order to refer to whatever the person currently using the word doesn't like. So although I care a lot about food and cooking and stuff, I prefer to call myself a friend of the shallot.
Because I use the shit out of some shallots.
Speaking of lines, remember how people used to LINE UP (I mean literally camp out) to get a copy of the Village Voice back in the day to get access to the rental listings. WTF! Try explaining that one to the kids.
I just cooked some shallots in my lunch!
People that think their Yelp restaurant reviews are interesting are some of the more annoying people on the planet.
I identify with the term "normie white person."
You would.
@NinetyNine How did you get user number 98? Was that intentional?
Dude, you are the prototype for 'normie white person'
I've never eaten so many sliders or shrimp/lobster rolls in one sitting before.
Really good event though.
http://gawker.com/#!239756/team-party-rsvp-new-york-magazine-oscar-party–the-spotted-pig
emily: (very long pause)
"Well all I will say is that Padma is talented and beautiful and a true foodie."
doree: i hate that word foodie
emily: really? it does kind of sound like what it is though.
a precious word for a precious type of person
doree: ha, true
congrats!
The Asian girls thing. Why is this? I am one and am wondering why my fellow AGs do this all the time (last time I did it was a one-time summer foray into Le Cirque [prix fixe menu of course], as discreetly as possible with the phone). From taking pictures of food at TGI Fridays to random mom n' pop stops… I think I can safely say it's more Korean girls who are into it. I think it's because we love our bulgogi too much. I don't know.
Oh, I am three days late. No one will see this.