Tuesday, August 17th, 2010
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"Douthat is full of crap in several ways."
-Christina Ziegler-McPherson, author of Americanization in the States: Immigrant Social Welfare Policy, Citizenship, and National Identity in the United States, 1908-1929.

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Muslims have their myths and he has his. Fair is fair.

La Cieca (#1,110)

For example, he believes that op-ed writers who die in the cause of the neoconservative movement will, upon their arrival in heaven, be given 40 sexually experienced women.

…to do their laundry.

propertius (#361)

I wonder if they agree on who burns in Hell.

KarenUhOh (#19)

It's fine to take him on from a historical perspective, because it strips the "factual" conceit from his argument.

The larger problem is the argument itself. With apparent sincerity, he applauds an "American tradition" of right-minded oppression that punishes diversity with the intent of eliminating it. There's not a shred of shame in his advocacy.

If he did have a point to make about "why it'd be better if they didn't," he ditched it in favor of blowing his horn to champion a (real or mythic) nation of populist tyrants.

La Cieca (#1,110)

Just guessing here, would one of them be: "to the depth and breadth and height my soul can reach, when feeling out of sight for the ends of Being and ideal Grace?"

DoctorDisaster (#1,970)

Reason is kicking ass today.

deepomega (#1,720)

Balko is a boon. And say what you will about libertarians, but the motherfuckers love stats. All that aspergersy attention to detail.

Dave Bry (#422)

Yes! That is great! Thanks, Doctor.

MaryHaines (#3,666)

I know it's sort of a minor objection compared with that whole defending-the-indefensible thing, but has any history-type person taken aim at the "we got the Mormons to give up polygamy" part of Douthat's column? Isn't he writing about how foreign elements/immigrants get Americanized (through suspicion and oppression)? Doesn't an example of a home-grown religious movement, forced into exile for being weird, kind of blow that whole thing to hell?

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