Only Clarence Thomas Brave Enough To Protect Bigots from Angry Gays
Today's Supreme Court decision in Doe v. Reed is worth knowing about, if you can bear with it. Corrections to what follow are welcome, and yes, I've omitted lots of the arguments in the interest of clarity. So! Last year in Washington State, the Governor signed into law a Senate bill that "ensures that under state law state-registered domestic partners are treated the same as married spouses." Anti-gay marriage forces quickly organized to put up a ballot measure to undo it. They got 137,000 to sign the necessary petition; the secretary of state certified those signatures. And then, when the secretary of state acknowledged that he was bound by state law to release this as a public document upon request, he was sued by the anti-gay marriage creeps, on grounds that those signatures were First Amendment speech–and on the grounds that they'd be harassed for their speech. Things moved pretty fast.
A federal district judge granted an injunction to the anti-gay marriage creeps.
The state appealed to the Ninth Circuit.
The Ninth Circuit agreed the petitions should be released.
The anti-gay marriage creeps appealed to the Supreme Court.
This led into an interesting area! Is petition-signing speech? If it is, what is it saying?
In most cases, the individual's signature will express the view that the law subject to the petition should be overturned. Even if the signer is agnostic as to the merits of the underlying law, his signature still ex- presses the political view that the question should be considered "by the whole electorate." Meyer v. Grant, 486 U. S. 414, 421. In either case, the expression of a political view implicates a First Amendment right.
(That is from the syllabus, not the decision.) And:
According to plaintiffs, the objective of those seeking disclosure is not to prevent fraud, but to publicly identify signatories and broadcast their political views on the subject of the petition. Plaintiffs allege, for example, that several groups plan to post the petitions in searchable form on the Internet, and then encourage other citizens to seek out R-71 petition signers. That, plaintiffs argue, would subject them to threats, harassment, and reprisals.
And yet, the decision was 8 to 1 in favor of releasing the petitions. (In part because it sounds like the anti-gay marriage creeps did some bad arguing.)
But that brave "1" was Clarence Thomas.
He rejects the arguments that secret petitions should be available to the people. "We should not abandon those principles merely because Washington and its amici can point to a mere eight instances of initiative-related fraud." A mere eight instances! You need at least 17 instances of fraudulent signatures to make the case, I guess.
THEN he calls that whole section irrelevant (he was just bringing it up for fun) and then he goes on for a while about how Washington State should make petition-signers public but do it by not making them at all public! The idea is they "could put the names and addresses of referendum signers into a similar electronic database that state employees could search without subjecting the name and address of each signer to wholesale public disclosure." So, actually, still secret.
AND THEN. He concludes that there is a right to privacy in signing a petition for a ballot measure. He says the Court's "conclusion rests on the premise that some referendum measures are so benign that the fact of public disclosure will not chill protected First Amendment activity." So, to not have secret petitions is chilling to speech.
And in the end, his historical example, maddeningly, of the sorts of people who would need privacy for their First Amendment activity of signing a petition? Lady suffragettes.







Clarence who?
excuse me. i think i found one of your pubes in my PBR.
PUBR
"Right to privacy"! No back-sies!
No shit. And while we're at it, can we conclude that the possibility of voter fraud–or even a couple of provable cases–doesn't justify asinine ID laws?
He also represents the 100% of the black vote that Bush won in 2000!
True. Alan Keyes probably wrote himself in.
But where can someone express bigotry and tromp on others' human rights anonymously without fear of reprisal? Oh yeah, that's what the internet is for.
I can sort of see the bigots' point (that all of those petitions should be private), presuming that our voting record is supposed to remain private.
Signing one of those petitions is implying that you would likely vote for it, which means that if it does appear on the ballot, there is then a list of those who voted for it, which takes away the presumption/right(?) to vote secretly.
But the verifiability of the petition is a matter of public record. It's what keeps PACs and parties from committing voter fraud, the knowledge that their signatures can be confirmed by third-party entities.
Correct!
Whenever I have signed a petition, I've done so assuming the entire point of the action is making my opinion publicly known. People have been voting against their publicly stated opinions as long as they have been voting, so I don't see how it gets in the way of a right to a secret vote.
They don't ask for your address, phone number, and signature on the ballot.
Well, Clarence has always had an expansive, Hugo Black-like view of the First Amendment. Especially for the corporates.
Exactly. Just paging through my Constitution looking for the right to secret petition-signing.
I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record.
Oh yeah?
I like that a Morrissey avatar is saying this, it should be a song title of his
As depressing as it is, I think it's such a great sign that these petition people are terrified of having their names publicly tied to this kind of legislation.
agreed.
Whatevs. How long before the names are made public I can go around oppressing signers by kicking them in the nads?
I really wish people would stop taking the First Amendment to mean their speech shouldn't have any negative consequences for them. (Threats are different, of course, but usually crimes.)
I think the hat tip goes to Scalia in this instance:
"There are laws against threats and intimidation; and harsh criticism, short of unlawful action, is a price our people have traditionally been willing to pay for self-governance. Requiring people to stand up in public for their political acts fosters civic courage, without which democracy is doomed. For my part, I do not look forward to a society which, thanks to the Supreme Court, campaigns anonymously and even exercises the direct democracy of initiative and referendum hidden from public scrutiny and protected from the accountability of criticism. This does not resemble the Home of the Brave."
These petitions, they are the type of thing people with clipboards stop you on the sidewalk to sign, right? There isn't another kind of petition that I'm unaware of, correct?
If you're going to have opinions on the actions of other people's lives, and sign petitions for legislation doing the same thing? Then at least have the fucking balls to be called out on it. Don't you want everyone to know how fucking moral you are, and upright, and christian?
Thing is, it isn't even "actions of other peoples' lives", it's their lives. That other people get to vote on. And those with hostile intent go all out to get signatures- to vote on other Americans' rights as citizens. To judge and deny basic fairness due to opinions and polls. It's sort of the gruesome aspect of "democracy", that know-nothings can be so viciously bigoted, and "initiatives like in CA can go so far, so destructively. To basic fairness and the idea we are all citizens worthy of respect. But these initiatives are the opposite, they are hostile and targeting one group of citizens, with prejudice.
And Justice Thomas seems just a worthless, uncurious, bitter person. Twenty years later, he still thinks of himself as a martyr, as was portrayed in a NYer article of a few years back. He can complain all he wants, about how he was treated in 1991, but in twenty years of reading about him, his judicial philosophy, where he stands, I honestly can't find one goddamned good thing to say about him. He's sort of a seething guy, and that must be the worst quality you can think of in a SCOTUS judge. Or any judge.
Oh, and I heartily agree with you.
"In 1986, Thomas participated as a member of a White House Working Group on the Family that produced a report on the family that severely criticized landmark constitutional decisions protecting the right to privacy. The report went so far as to excoriate a
decision protecting a grandmother's freedom to open her home to her orphaned grandchildren, without government restriction.
It particularly targeted cases in the area of reproductive
freedom, and called for them to be overruled."
So according to Thomas, citizens have no right to privacy in their personal lives, but they do have the right to secrecy when it comes to supporting bigotry.
The summary of Thomas' dissent isn't particularly accurate, but, whatever, it is pretty bad and I cant be bothered to correct it.
That said it is still less objectionable than the court opinion. Whilst the ruling that the constitution demands blanket anonymity for signers of all petitions might be bad law it would still be law. The court opinion which holds that the court gets to pick and choose which petitioners have a right to anonymity sets out criteria so vague as to make it inevitable that the right to anonymity will depend on whether a majority of the justices are sympathetic to the the petitioners cause or not.