Just How Fashionably Detached Do You Need To Be?
This has happened too many times: you pretend not to know anything about some item of zeitgeisty detritus that you, in fact, know plenty about. Whatever subject your friends or coworkers are discussing-Ke$ha, Shia, Padma-it's just too pedestrian, too downmarket, too… well, it's actually not you! So, even though you've somehow managed to absorb numerous nuggets of information about whatever the silly pop thing is, you feign ignorance. Unfortunately, a true lack of awareness is difficult to fake, and everyone probably guessed you were bluffing anyway.
It's a rule that the more aloof one is toward popular culture, the more noble and/or interesting one's life pursuits must be. (After all, one's life is the most noble and interesting when one does actually know nothing at all about pop culture.) And if by early June of 2010 you haven't yet had a keen comprehension of Justin Bieber thrust upon you, then clearly you've got multiple fingers invested in multiple artistic pies and a dual-ended candle burning, etc. And that's fine. Some people are legitimately too busy to risk distraction, so they purposefully tune out all of the continually emerging nonessential information. Such souls do exist, and you can tell who they are because when these people say they haven't heard of, like, Twilight, the affectless disinterest in their eyes rings absolutely true. They're not pretending; they just genuinely do not know or care.
On the other hand, most of us do have certain nonessential pleasures or even obsessions that require frequent nourishment. We're open to receiving data from the various info-streams into whose paths we wander again and again each day, slaking our thirst for What's Going On via the myriad glowing rectangles surrounding us always. We watch, we read, we listen, and in the process we pick up things we wish we hadn't. For instance, anyone who got their gulf oil spill breaking news from CNN that first week would have unavoidably learned the exact state of Bret Michaels' medical condition on a more-or-less hourly basis, whether they wanted to or not.
Of course it can be embarrassing to admit some of the things you have nonconsensually come to know! The mere fact of that accidental knowledge, once exposed, might suggest to others an interest that simply does not exist, potentially putting you in the awkward position of explaining the very roundabout way you learned who Lauren Conrad is dating. And since such explanations tend to come off as nakedly defensive, they end up producing the exact opposite of their intended effect-i.e. everyone now assumes you are The Hills super-fan numero uno. It's much easier, then, to just pretend you've never heard of LC at all. Depending on the company you keep, it's also, obviously, much cooler.
And yet some people try too hard. Fashionable detachment carries that certain cachet, but only if this distance is organic and if you are not condescending about it. Some people cannot wait to inform you, for example, that they don't own a TV, which is never not an annoying thing to hear, whatever your personal thoughts are about television. These folks miss the point entirely about what awareness and ignorance communicates.
Having seen Transformers 2: Revenge of the the Box Office doesn't automatically mark you as "being way into Transformers 2" any more than reading the work of Marcel Proust marks you as "being a pretentious d-bag." Does the Proust reader wear a natty brown ribbed sweater and absently pick at his patchy beard? Is the Transformers 2 viewer also necessarily super-psyched about J. Crew and gonzo pornography? No. Character judgments cannot be accurately made based on one's aesthetic tastes alone. And likewise, the strategy of brushing off the "low brow" has no actual implications about what its deployer is really like (or really likes) on its own.
But people seem to think it does, so fashionable detachment has become the new version of name-dropping, except you're known for what you say you don't know. It becomes impossible to decipher who is authentically out of the loop, who just wants you to believe as much, and then, in the case of the latter-why?
In order to make sense out of all this, here are a few fashionably detached claims that people might make, and some methods for interpreting them:
"Modern Family? Isn't that basically what most sitcoms are called?"
FD Level: Decidedly Low
Analysis: Between traditional networks, cable, Netflix Instant, Hulu and Youtube, there are so many shows available that it's impossible to keep track, let alone watch them all. For the first time in television history, we are suffering from an overabundance of quality content. If someone hasn't heard of Modern Family or whatever other new show is getting raves, they are more than likely telling the truth, and not conveying a Kill-Your-Television sense of militant non-conformism. Also, you can tell they're not kidding around if they think its a 1970s BBC documentary.
"Who's day off from what now?"
FD Level: Slightly Elevated
When anyone between the ages of 25 and 40 pleads ignorance to a beloved 80's classic like Ferris Bueller's Day Off, the reasons are fairly limited. One possibility is that the person's parents believed in limiting the amount of television their children watched per week, and this very important film somehow never made it onto the docket. Another likely case is that a now-adult person expends most of their cinematic energy rabidly anticipating Takashi Miike's next release, and hence looks upon commercial films as the folly of their youth, with all prior viewings summarily disavowed.
"Is ‘The Balloon Boy Hoax' some kind of new dance move?"
FD Level: Elevated
Analysis: A professed lack of familiarity with any large-scale media spectacle of the last year could be a signal of one's extremely fast-paced or outdoorsy job-working arrangements not at all conducive to communal gatherings around the pantry TV or laptop. Avid political junkies and even casual current events enthusiasts are probably not telling the truth, though, when they claim that a story like Balloon Boy eluded them. Rather, they are intimating an exclusive interest in actual hard news (whatever that is) and a total disdain of fluff.
"To what ‘situation' are you referring?"
FD Level: Decidedly High
Analysis: The cast of Jersey Shore was among the most savvy to ever vomit on (and some would say onto) national television. They emerged fully formed as tabloid personalities, complete with nicknames and catchphrases. The true triumph of this very popular reality show was that during January of 2010, it was difficult to navigate the Internet, the TV or even just your office without a mental introduction to The Situation and Snooki. It was so difficult, in fact, that claiming unawareness even now comes across as dubious; an attempt to convey one's contempt for the whole enterprise of reality television. There are few legitimate explanations for having never heard of these people.
"‘Gaga' is a totally inappropriate name for a lady."
FD Level: Off the Charts
Analysis: Nope. She's inescapable; a fully galvanized phenomenon, and arguably the most popular performer on the planet right now. Most sentient beings have some opinion regarding Lady Gaga, and as weird as it is to believe, it would be ridiculous to claim otherwise. You'd have an easier time denying gravity.
We have all pretended not to know certain things before, and we all have certain gaps in our knowledge base that take others by surprise. While a comprehensive grasp on the nonessential information of the day may never be seen as a sign of genius (and for good reason), the lack of it, whether by design or otherwise, will never be seen that way either. As for ‘essential information,' the jury is still out on what that even might be, let alone what a firm grasp on it conveys to others. People who don't know the name of Obama's latest nominee to the Supreme Court look neither coolly distant nor ill-informed-they just look like an alarmingly broad swath of Americans.
Joe Berkowitz is an assistant editor and freelance writer living in New York City
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While I will not be so FD that I can claim not to know who Justin Bieber is, I can legitimately say that I have never heard a single note of his musical output. Eventually it got to the point where refusing to spend 20 seconds finding it on YouTube became a snooty point of pride. What does it sound like? Does it sound like what I think it sounds like?
I think the entire point of this post is that you could in fact actually listen and find out? I promise it won't make you gay.
This is true! It is impossible not to have heard of him, but not hearing his music is actually pretty easy. I initially made the erroneous "this generation's JTT" = "must be an actor" connection.
I watched that new "We Are The World" video and thought, who is the young kid singing terribly?
This (while admittedly incredibly stupid) is honestly the only context in which I've ever deigned to listen to The Bieb. (Do the kids call him that? They should.) I had to turn it off after about 3 seconds.
(It definitely didn't make me gay, though!)
It definitely made me Bieb-curious but I was too lazy for anything to come of it.
28! Maybe 29 after listening to that song for 30 seconds.
(Biebe-curious, heh heh heh…)
The funny thing is, while I recognize some of the nicknames of the Jersey Shore cast, I haven't ever seen the names associated with pictures. So if I'm in a bar and my friend says, "Oh, God, that girl looks just like Snooki," I have to pretend to know more about Jersey Shore than I actually do. Deeply humiliating.
And: I have on occasion mentioned that I don't have cable TV, but I always go on to state that I do it to save money and still watch idiot box on the intertubes. Is that tolerable?
It's actually the wave of the future.
That's what I do, too. Lots of free shows on Hulu, and I buy season passes on iTunes for Mad Men. Saves mad money!
What about when you deliberately eschew pop culture for far nerdier culture. Here is an example:
Friend: "Did you see Real Housewives of Whereever last night?"
Me: "Nope, sorry, was catching up on Torchwood. Why?"
In this situation, am I better than my friend or not?
Let me answer your question with a question- who has bigger boobs?
Do I even need to answer that?
FTW, Shirley Temple!
I know people who watch Housewives and people who watch Torchwood and the Torchwood camp definitely wins.
I watch both- so I am I super duper cool?
@amockingbird: Nope – they cancel each other out, so you're a loser. Sorry…
(sigh) Eve Myles…
I enjoyed that. There is a giant 10 story billboard where I live of a lady named Julianne Hough pushing Proactiv. I feel like I should have some idea who she is, but if asked, all I can respond is that she seems quite pretty and advertises Proactiv. Also, I read the Awl because it highly fashionably detached, except for Lady GaGa.
What's the Awl?
WIN
I personally despise "reality" television, and thus have avoided any and all forms. It's not difficult, as I don't have cable and aside from "Lost", never had an interest in network TV in general.
When I went to purchase a cheap pair of "emergency" glasses, I chose WalMart. The saleswoman was especially keen to push the "Randy Jackson" series of eyewear. When I told her I didn't know who that was, she informed me he was on "American Idol". I asked if he won, and was met with whatever the reverse of "hipster disdain" is.
I was so embarrassed that I immediately googled him when I got back to work. (In fairness, if she would have said he was the "yo, dog" guy, I would have known who she was talking about).
The reverse of 'hipster disdain' is 'fear & loathing.'
It's "Yo, dawg."
Heh-heh. You liked Lost?
The former lead singer of my defunct ukulele band responded to one of my notes with "Snooki and the Situation – is that a new group I should check out?" Conversely, he can play any song by any lineup of Black Sabbath on virtually any 4-6 stringed instrument, and sing the words in Hawaiian.
"The former lead singer of my defunct ukulele band…"
Yeah, now you're just stringing words together.
In "C."
My dad is a genius when it comes to this. You're never quite sure whether he's joking or is actually completely ignorant.
My dad is, too, but he definitely is completely ignorant, and it's completely real (unless it's about sports – then he's all over it). My mom used to be the same way, but now that there are no kids left in the house to take care of, she's started watching more TV, and every once in a while she'll drop some pop culture reference and it will blow my mind because she's not supposed to know stuff like that. It is really quite jarring when you're in the car with your mom, and flipping around the radio stations, and she tells you to stop because she wants to listen to that Eminem song. "What? I think he's very talented."
My dad actually enjoys this. He thinks it's funny to pretend he has no idea what you're talking about. But then he's also very out of touch with pop culture, so he often really does not know.
Yeah, dads can get away with genuinely not knowing. I share pop culture nuggets with my dad, and get lots of "why do you watch these awful people?" He's British, so it sounds even more FD. He does "get" Gaga, though he was upset by the violence in the Bad Romance Video. Bless him.
My Dad is only nice to the guys I bring around who have too many tattoos. He says he's been there, owing to his years of WWII service. So it may not be as hip as it seems, but in reality it's really genuine. Insert "Fashion Recycling Itself" joke here.
My dad refers to fb friends as "facemates."
At the height of their popularity, my mother had no idea who New Kids On The Block were. And she was an elementary school guidance counselor.
In the 90s my father watched Melrose Place but now he just listens to his Dukes of Dixieland records and watches Leno.
This is aside from his actual artistic endeavors and rigorous exercise regime.
Holy smokes! That's like the middle aged librarian I encountered last November who'd never heard of "Twilight" (or surrounding hoopla). TWILIGHT, for crying out loud. The literary epoch of the new millennium.
Wait. A "librarian" who's never heard of what are some of the best-selling books of the recent years? I mean, I'm certainly not suggesting that they have any literary merit, but… has this "librarian" also never heard of Harry Potter?
Whatever the answer is, who cares?
It was a very rude appellation for Mrs. Thatcher in her senility, ruder still as a name for a rock band!
Ought we refer to her Baroness Thatcher, instead?
Don't you mean Baroness Gaga, you fool?
How about when you're all-too-familiar with "Modern Family" because your friends — people who otherwise seem to have very fine taste! — keep telling you how great it is, but each of the now four (FOUR!) times you've attempted to verify this on Hulu, you always wind up shaking your head and muttering, "This is just terrible"?
Also, what does it say about me that the "Day Off" reference made me think of all those new Food Network/Cooking Channel shows entitled "[Supposedly Famous Chef That You've Never Heard Of]'s Day Off"?
That is what happens to me when I try to watch Glee!
Although I'll admit to unabashedly (okay, maybe a little abashedly) TiVoing "Glee," The Honey's and my virtually constant refrain while watching is, "This makes my butt hurt."
97% of Glee is borderline-unwatchable. 3% is fantastic. This leads me to believe that a good writer from some other show like Arrested Development is actually TRAPPED INSIDE Glee and sending me coded messages, and I have to keep watching to crack the code and save their lives.
And Puck is hot.
C_Webb, I want you to know that I enjoyed this comment so much that I just read it aloud to my boyfriend, and that is not, like, a thing that I do.
I think Modern Family is good. They seemed to run out of ideas towards the end of the first season, but it is still really good.
I was the youngest and least important person at a business dinner with my boss and a six person team from our client. During cocktails, my boss mentioned he had just returned from dropping his eldest son off at St. Andrews.
I let out an involuntary squeal and blurted out "OMG, that's where Prince William met his girlfriend."
Needless to say conversation stopped and I had to patiently explain to everyone at the table the whole story and why I knew it. I fudged a great excuse which has become a mainstay: "I read it in an old People at the dentist's office."
Anything I don't learn from the internet, I find out from reading Daily Variety just before I add it to the recycling bin in my office.
Was he talking about the other St. Andrews anyway?
Tuna, the old "People in the dentist's office/doctor's office/salon/checkout line" is my go-to when explaining why I know embarrassing celebrity gossip. Right on.
Does saying, "The last good show on TV was Arrested Development!" still get me in the cool club?
Maybe… But check out Party Down. You can stream it on Netflix.
Yes! What's bad for America is good for Party Down.
<3,<3 Party Down.
People who claim they don't have a TV are almost always annoying.
If you get stuck next to one of them at a dinner party, prepare to be judged.
Drinking a lot a wine spritzers helps, also.
I have a TV, bu it's not actually hooked up to anything useful. But i don't judge people who do have television. I just don't know what they're talking about.
One possibility is that the person's parents believed in limiting the amount of television their children watched per week, and this very important film somehow never made it onto the docket.
This happened to me, and I cannot put the mockings I endured in college into words. (Movies I had not seen til I was forced to watch them by freshman year boyfriend: Ferris Buller's Day off, Dirty Dancing, Back To The Future, The Godfather, amongst many others) If only I had know then that this ignorance made me cool!
Let's go see Beverly Hills Cop. "I ain't gonna fall for no banana in the tail pipe."
FWIW, my sister finally saw the first Star Wars last year.
My parents were some of those. My mother, really. I had to sneak General Hospital on the sly, and i still recall listening–yes, listening–to Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, and Three's Company on a radio that pulled in the TV band. I'm still kind of bitter.
@Hydroceph: Holy shit. Three's Company on the radio is the saddest thing I've heard in weeks.
He heh… I get horrible flashbacks to being 9 years old and not allowed to watch weekday television while the Simpsons was all that anyone could talk about at school.
Strangely history is repeating as I've not owned a TV in years and, contrary to boasting about it, I've found I've had to hide the fact on many occasions. Especially on dates. If I don't know who someone is or what some tv show is about the other person starts wigging out on me.
Never seen an episode of the Simpsons. Top that. I just don't find it remotely interesting. But it's not hard to fake through the endless cultural references.
Oh geez I sound like a snob. Um… I love "fitness" oriented reality television! I follow Heidi and Spencer's marital squabbles religiously! Texts From Last Night comprise 35% of my daily reading material!
@phlox: No kidding. I put one of my therapist's daughters through Sarah Lawrence on that alone.
@dulciusexaspersis: you've never seen the Simpsons, yet you don't find it interesting? This seems like my friends "didn't see it – didn't like it" refusal to see movies. It also works for reading books (see: Ayatollah Khomeini and The Satanic Verses).
@dulciusexaspersis: I've seen less than five episodes each of the Simpsons, Friends, or Seinfeld, and all of those were under "just watch an episode and you'll like it!" situations. None of what I saw was compelling enough for me to seek out more on my own.
I have seen some Law & Order episodes dozens of times, though …..
I'm not saying I have taste, or anything like that. Just that it takes years, and is sometimes impossible, to undo parental TV censorship.
I love when Ellen Page sings.
you guys, i feel so weird because mine are in REVERSE ORDER. I would assume that someone was fronting about ferris beuller, but I MYSELF thought that "situation" was just a word they USED on Jersey Shore a lot and not someone's name.
i should note, though, that i broke up w/the dude i was w/that paid for cable around the same time Jersey Shore debuted. it was totally unfortunate, because i probably would love that show if it's anything close to the caliber of Teen Mom.
*bueller, that is. i've apparently only watched the french version? or something?
OMG I totally forgot about Teen Mom!
What is a 'laptop'?
That's what you sat on, down at the mall that one time. Remember the bad Santa?
The only problem with Fashionable Detachment is that if it goes on too long, it becomes genuine Utter Cluelessness, and that's never a good look.
This. I have a genuinely clueless friend who just a few weeks ago was asking me "Who's Lady Gaga?" and did the same thing with the Jersey Shore thing. After I bashed my head against my desk a few times, I asked her where she gets her news from because it must be the most pure strain of politics and business reporting ever.
No kidding. Not even the Economist is that ethereal.
I haven't seen Transformers 2 and I've read Proust. Am I still a pretentious d-bag even if I've seen the first Transformers and enjoyed it?
Depends. Did you call it _In Search of Lost Time_ or _Remembrance of Things Past_?
I think the author is overlooking the entire grad student population. It's quite possible to have one's pop culture frozen in 2006 without affectation.
The ones I don't understand are the people who claim to be oblivious to major championships in pro sports. To me that's kind of like not knowing who the President is. It's in the news — with genuine new developments — *every day*.
It's easy if you don't give a shit about hockey and basketball, especially the former.
Most grad students are forced to interact with undergrads in some role (teaching, grading, mentoring), are they not? Nothing's more "fashionably detached" than mocking the tastes and intellectual development of marginally younger adults via pretended ignorance of their trends. I hated that about grad school.
Is that what i was doing? I did it as a professor, too. No wonder those brats were so ornery.
"Grad students are the worst."
Wow did I miss 90s week? I haven't seen the anti-intellectual guilt-you-into-caring angle in ages.
Looking forward to hearing about how we should hate reading.
No need to be snobbish about it. There's nothing anti-intellectual about being aware of popular culture to tell us what's meaningful to society at any given moment.
Couldn't agree more. Let me be Awl-punctuation clear: I think that in this case the "fashionably" in "fashionably detached" is a little bullying? As is your "snobbish"?
Ahhh! Agreed, too, then!
The problem of conveying tone on the et cetera.
(Same with the "fashionably," btw. I just chalked it up to not-entirely-accurate word choice, rather than something nefarious. This is all just a take on "ironic detachment" anyway, right?)
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what exactly is this "television" device of which you speak?
Beats me, but i've found it terribly useful in anesthetizing Hydro Jr.
Who is J. Crew?
I believe they are some hippity-hoppers.
Dads are definitely exempt from knowing anything about pop culture trivia. Although the rest of my family aren't much better. I can still feel a cold shiver down my spine when I recall a dinner party with them in 1995 when they claimed a complete lack of knowledge about Pamela Anderson. I have never watched a single episode of Baywatch, but that didn't prevent a collective gasp from my best friend and me. Have these people never waited on line at a supermarket? How can you avoid tabloid culture to such an extent? Perhaps "head in the sand" syndrome might be a more apt description…
Are clueless dads worse than dads who try to be really with it? There's nothing worse than a 65-year-old man going on about Gaga/Speidi/whatever.
I stopped reading this so I could make a joke about being FD vis a vis this post ('What is this post about again?'), and then I thought I should check the comments to see if someone covered that, then realized I could be FD about the comments ('Who reads comments anymore'?). I'm not even going to proof this, because who cares about their own comments anymore?
RelatedIs there a preemptively detached option out there?*
*what's a meme?
I have in fact explained to my parents what a meme is.
Far more useful than a guide for telling whether someone else's Fashionable Detachment is plausible would be tips on how I can better present myself as such!!! (This was serious.)
This entire time, I thought FD meant 'Feigned Disinterest.'
I'm still trying to pick between David and Shaun Cassidy.
Totes David, although of late his head has grown to the size of Rhode Island.
I know someone who hasn't heard of ANYTHING and I have to fill him in on every.little.thing. I told him it's like having to try bringing a coma patient who's just awakened from 25 years up to speed. Exhausting. He didn't know Rock Hudson was gay!