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Tuesday, December 8, 2009

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The 50 States, In Order

50. South Carolina
49. Utah
48. Delaware
47. Mississippi
46. Alabama
45. Texas
44. Virginia
43. Indiana
42. Connecticut
41. Idaho
40. Florida
39. Nevada
38. Missouri
37. Alaska
36. Nebraska
35. South Dakota
34. Kentucky
33. Vermont
32. Oklahoma
31. Wyoming
30. Oregon
29. Arizona
28. North Carolina
27. Georgia
26. Kansas
25. Arkansas
24. North Dakota
23. Rhode Island
22. Montana
21. Colorado
20. New Mexico
19. Iowa
18. Tennessee
17. Louisiana
16. Washington
15. New Hampshire
14. West Virginia
13. Hawaii
12. California
11. Michigan
10. New York
9. Wisconsin
8. Minnesota
7. Maine
6. Ohio
5. Massachusetts
4. Illinois
3. New Jersey
2. Maryland
1. Pennsylvania



Previously: The 94 Best Philip Larkin Poems, In Order

208 Comments / Post A Comment

Alex Balk
Alex Balk (#4)

The exclusion of D.C. makes me question the validity of this list.

libmas
libmas (#231)

Okay, I'll bite - how, exactly, is DC our national Suedehead?

cherrispryte
cherrispryte (#444)

Exactly! Though, if DC were a state, it'd be the most fucked up state ever. Even worse than West Virginia, but different.

PS - did WV get ranked so high because it is the home of the beloved Ronbo?

afarerkind
afarerkind (#379)

It is also the home of me. So 14 seems fair.

chrisafer
chrisafer (#1,322)

If by fucked up you mean awesome.

cherrispryte
cherrispryte (#444)

If by awesome you mean "horribly governed, with income inequality so great it would make Brazil blush, and perpetually five years behind NYC in terms of trends and general culture," then yes, I mean awesome. I live in DC. I love it. But admitting that the city's super fucked-up is the first step towards improvement.

zidaane
zidaane (#373)

26th http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/cigarett.html

hockeymom
hockeymom (#143)

Why'd you rank Texas so high?

BoHan
BoHan (#29)

Probably all the jobs and affordable housing. But ability to live in the middle-class doesn't seem to have much to do with this list. Also I have issues with Oklahoma, Louisiana (healthcare?), Arkansas and Kansas.

hockeymom
hockeymom (#143)

I have issues with those state, too.
In general.

golikehellmachine

Having grown up in Oklahoma, you're both well within your rights to have issues with it.

barnhouse
barnhouse (#1,326)

It has Austin.

BoHan
BoHan (#29)

Yeah but Austin now has that Burj Dubai condo fright sitting on the river. So meh. Also Perry. But he is cancelled out by Taylor Kitsch. So I give up. #45 is about right. I was being knee-jerk. Apologies Hockey mom.

David Cho
David Cho (#3)

Ok, this one was sort of good.

TerseNursePornstein

This one was the BEST, you mean.

Maevemealone
Maevemealone (#968)

PA ALL THE WAY! YEAH! (indeed, a random list.)

mathnet
mathnet (#27)

You've Got A Friend In!

sallytomato
sallytomato (#549)

yay PA!

Maevemealone
Maevemealone (#968)

It's the only thing PA has won all week!

NeonTrotsky
NeonTrotsky (#2,249)

As a growing Delawarophobe, I like its position at #48.

cherrispryte
cherrispryte (#444)

I am waiting for the day when someone can explain to me the difference between Delaware and a parking lot.

Except for Rehoboth beach. Rehoboth's awesome.

tralafel
tralafel (#1,221)

You generally don't have to sit in inexplicable traffic for hours in a parking lot on your way to another state.

karion
karion (#11)

Where the hell is Bubbles on this list.

Oh, nevermind. But Oregon deserved better.

garge
garge (#736)

I was shocked and intensely relieved to see Ohio made it on the list, but then I started crying from the build up after all of the suspense.

rj77
rj77 (#210)

I, too, was amazed to see the place of my birth so highly ranked.

Mary HK Choi
Mary HK Choi (#1,469)

MAHAHAHHAHAHA. This is 100% correct.

southernbitch
southernbitch (#2,141)

#17 should actually just be New Orleans.

CheeseLouise
CheeseLouise (#2,074)

Seconded.

Eureka Street
Eureka Street (#1,349)

I posit that Alaska would have been higher a year ago.

Also, the voters really like West Virginia!

dado
dado (#102)

So Mark Sanford is The Father Who Must Be Killed?

berthamason
berthamason (#740)

No, Mark Sanford is the young man running through the glen.

Other richly suggestive pairings:

47. Mississippi / Interesting Drug
29. Arizona / National Front Disco
11. Michigan / November Spawned a Monster
10. New York / Every Day Is Like Sunday

gumplr
gumplr (#66)

South of the Border is not helping things, either...

Krugmanic Depressive

I guess I understand the need to throw a bone to Michigan (11? Really?) with all the economic collapsing, BUT Ohio is going to get too big for its britches at number 6.

rj77
rj77 (#210)

BWAHAHAHA.

Go Bucks!

Tyler Coates
Tyler Coates (#451)

THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY AND OFFENDED THAT I'LL HAVE TO BLOG ABOUT IT.

Steve
Steve (#1,777)

I assume the NJ ranking was helped by a surge of Jersey Shore-inspired voting.

(Too meta-enabling?)

WindowSeat
WindowSeat (#180)

This list is Ranking of States Where Pajama Bottoms Are Worn In Public, right? Cos it's all I see when I look around here in PA.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

I will see your pajama bottoms and raise you a 'going-to-college-in-Boston-if-I-never-see-another-pair-of sweatpants-with-something-written-across-the-ass-I-can die-a-happy-man.'

WindowSeat
WindowSeat (#180)

You are racist against JUICY

garge
garge (#736)

I could not possibly fail to mention the all season uggs+miniskirt combo.

myfanwy
myfanwy (#1,124)

Uggs...I thought we were done with those this year, but then it got cold. Here it's the 'aspirational yoga clothes' plus the aforementioned footwear that are the offending articles.

kitten_witawip

Window, I am guessing PINK.

Bittersweet
Bittersweet (#765)

Garge, here in the Boston burbs the variation seems to be skinny jeans/Uggs. Ugh.

golikehellmachine

Colorado, as far as I can tell, is officially sponsored by The North Face sleeveless life jackets.

therzo
therzo (#1,085)

Demonstrates an outrageous bias towards Wawa, with Delaware put at 48 to a) throw us off the scent b) it's fucking Delaware.

Lisanti
Lisanti (#13)

Montana at #22 is fucking bullshit.

GiovanniGF
GiovanniGF (#224)

Damn, I could have really used it in descending order. Sigh.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

Is your avatar a reference to Battleship Potemkin? If so... call me.

devaluingmyfame

#40! It's 81 degrees today (FEELS LIKE 86) in my part of #40 -- suck on that, state raters.

PersicaPit
PersicaPit (#2,487)

As a native South Carolinian, I can attest that this list is 100% accurate. Sigh.

bb
bb (#295)

I am about to die of disagreement here.. speechless. I suspect Scocca is secretly from NJ, since a lot of PA is basically NJ anyway, and MD is not far off.

brent_cox
brent_cox (#40)

Maryland: Expect it when you least expect it, Pennsylvania.

poisonville
poisonville (#776)

This state listicle thing is PROFOUNDLY ARGUABLE.

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

This is the worst alphabetizing I've ever seen.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

Vermont is not a 'middle-of-the-list-state.'

- Gay Marriage
- Ice Cream
- Ganja

Suck it.

beingiseasy
beingiseasy (#1,735)

uhm, and...maple syrup and cheese! petitioning for Vermont for number 1. I mean, PA, really? the endless drive from north to south thru PA should alone disqualify it for number 1.

Hobbesian
Hobbesian (#255)

And let's not forget Pittsburgh. Although Erie is lovely.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

AND Burton Snowboards and microbreweries and Pat Leahy!

(-1 for Phish)

Choire Sicha

Actually, in retrospect, I think my biggest complaint yet may have to do with Vermont! Vermont is pretty top-notch. Right up there with Oregon.

golikehellmachine

Despite my previous bitching about life jackets, Colorado could take Vermont AND Pennsylvania, based on the number of breweries, bars and distilleries alone.

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

Too close to Quebec.

Suck it right back.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

*call me

ProfessorBen
ProfessorBen (#1,254)

phallic bennington monument

LondonLee
LondonLee (#922)

-1,000,000 for Phish

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

You're... you're right.

Baboleen
Baboleen (#1,430)

CHEESE!!!???

Baboleen
Baboleen (#1,430)

-1 mud season

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

+ 1 Von Trapps.

Bittersweet
Bittersweet (#765)

-20 vacationing New Yorkers

metoometoo
metoometoo (#230)

I'm so pleased with the placement of New Jersey that I didn't want to find fault with the rest of the list, but yes. Vermont is patently wonderful.

AdamK
AdamK (#64)

at nine spots ahead of indiana, kentucky has won the only battle that matters. fucking hoosiers.

paxcincinnatus

no big blue. once again your state skates by on the merits of its bourbon.

Calipari is an awful human being and hot browns taste exactly as good as they sound.

Shivery.McPickles

To whoever ranked New Mexico directly above Colorado and WAY above Texas: Fuck yes.

However, Iowa can suck it.

KarenUhOh
KarenUhOh (#19)

I'll bet those darn Puerto Ricans are PISSED.

mat
mat (#2,476)

Marylander here nonetheless shocked and appalled by North Carolina's being ranked so low. That is THE prototypical New Blue multiple-ideopolis state. It also has beaches, mountains, and two of college basketball's five best programs.

LondonLee
LondonLee (#922)

It also has my raging conservative Christian in-laws who are sitting around waiting for the Rapture while watching Glenn Beck forwarding us iffy emails about Obama.

Have you been outside Raleigh into the rural areas? It's fucking crazy town.

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

My home state of Tennessee is shockingly high. Do you mean West or East Tennessee?

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

OK. Outsider question Isn't that the difference between Flat & Bumpy?

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

Someone paid attention in 5th grade geography--nice work! There's also Middle Tennessee, which is Flumpy.

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

I always imagined raiders from highland Tennessee coming down and spreading terror in lowland and flumpy Tennessee. Appalachian Vikings if you will.

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

They are a warrior breed, those Highlanders.

Tulletilsynet
Tulletilsynet (#333)

My brother.

mathnet
mathnet (#27)

Is it OK if I share this with others and get their opinions?

Hobbesian
Hobbesian (#255)

I can only comment on the states I've lived in:

Ohio - you bet your ass we're top ten.
Virginia - deserves much better, top 15.
Florida - easily #50.

Steve
Steve (#1,777)

Florida is by far the worst state in the union. This is an empirical fact.

Hobbesian
Hobbesian (#255)

The nation's wang.

hockeymom
hockeymom (#143)

True, also.

semiserious
semiserious (#2,430)

It is not that bad. We voted for Obama, and at most have only produced minor political assholes (unlike #1's Santorum). We keep the nations supply of Grandparents warm and safely away from you. Miami is coming close to producing something vaguely reminiscent of culture. Um ...there's a big fucking swamp.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

+1 for Alligators.

garge
garge (#736)

-1 for the redheaded CSI guy

Baboleen
Baboleen (#1,430)

-1 Katherine Harris-she was creepy

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

-10 (and counting) for Tiger Woods

Though it could be split with Nevada on a mercy rule.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

+ 1 for Cocaine Cowboys

Hobbesian
Hobbesian (#255)

+1 for the Design District.

-1 for all of Miami Beach except Zeke's.

barnhouse
barnhouse (#1,326)

-3 trillion for 2000 election.

Olivia2.0
Olivia2.0 (#1,716)

Done.

cherrispryte
cherrispryte (#444)

I was told there would be no math.

NeonTrotsky
NeonTrotsky (#2,249)

That West Virginia is ranked higher than Virginia proper on anything is enough to cause visceral feelings of rage and disgust in Virginians...

Sweetie
Sweetie (#519)

As a West Virginian, I agree!

tralafel
tralafel (#1,221)

West Virginia Is For Haters.

HonoriaGlossop
HonoriaGlossop (#1,247)

Florida: Where Senior Citizens Get the Clap

tiny dancer
tiny dancer (#1,774)

Ohio? Are you confusing Big 10 with top ten?

Sablesma
Sablesma (#1,244)

Louisiana is the only state keeping Tennessee from claiming the coveted Number One in the South. I suggest spots 17 and 18 be switched, if for no other reason than to punish LA for their obvious feelings of high-fallootin superiority in having Parishes instead of Counties like the rest of our great nation. Plus, I would like to see Tennessee rightfully Number One in the South. This MATTERS.

southernbitch
southernbitch (#2,141)

Oh, HELL no. (Hell, of course, is pronounced as if it has a "y".) What does TN have that LA doesn't? Dolly Parton's boobs? Mountains? Moonshine? We've got Mardi Gras, brass bands, drinking on the street, alligators, swamps, LSU football (seriously, I don't give a fuck about that, but I guess a lot of people do), and the Saints.

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

Memphis, the fucking Mississippi River (oh, never mind that last).

Everything on your list except LSU and alligators is New Orleans, which will soon be competing with Atlantis for the most submerged formerly interesting place. And when the real high water comes, East Tennessee will be the last place standing (which is how god wants it).

southernbitch
southernbitch (#2,141)

for some weird reason I can't reply to kneetoe. So let me say, as a former resident of East Tennesse, I would rather swim in the streets of New Orleans than have dry feet in Knoxville.

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

It's because if you don't have anything nice to say about the town I grew up in, The Awl won't let you say anything (except, of course, it did let you, but nevermind).

Actually, I'm going back for xmas and I'm bored already.

southernbitch
southernbitch (#2,141)

I feel your pain. I lived in Farragut when I was a child. It scarred me for life, and I am not joking about that. Wretched place.

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

You poor thing. Now West Knoxville goes out to and beyond Farragut in that classic endless strip of the same shit over and over again so well known in all places (ie, much of America) where planning never happened.

Tulletilsynet
Tulletilsynet (#333)

I think we may allow ourselves to acknowledge that Louisiana and its charming people deserve to be slightly overrated if anyone does.

Jasmine
Jasmine (#8)

This was strangely anti-climactic. PA. hm. Yet it all makes sense.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

Welcome to The Nads.

ehcotton
ehcotton (#358)

#32! Suck it, 33-50!

/lives in ny

hman
hman (#53)

You know how sometimes some Canadian commenter will come by and make some smart-alecky comment?
That's always funny.

formerly it takes a lot etc.

I was just typing, Where's Ontario?

But that's more nonsensical than smart-alecky, I admit.

myfanwy
myfanwy (#1,124)

No problem!

myfanwy
myfanwy (#1,124)

(Passive-aggressive Canadians say "You're welcome.")

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

1.PEI
2.Manitoba
3.Alberta
4.Ontario
5.Saskatchewan
6.British Columbia
7.New Brunswick
8.Yukon
9.Nova Scotia
10. Newfoundland
11.Nunavat
12.Quebec
13. North West Territory

In NO particular Order

myfanwy
myfanwy (#1,124)

I would say it's in order of potatoes eaten per capita, but then I remembered poutine.

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

It's actually the AGG (Anne of Green Gables) Index

garge
garge (#736)

OMG in my circle AOGG is a trope!

Bittersweet
Bittersweet (#765)

I'd say it's friendliness of the natives, but then Manitoba would be #1 by a landslide.

Setec Astrology

Makes sense, what with being just north of Minnesota and all...

hyphenanne
hyphenanne (#1,790)

We are a pretty friendly bunch. I feel like Newfoundland and Nunavut should be ranked higher, just because they're newer. The fresh scent of a new province/territory!

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

Are you kidding? Newfies hate that Potato Eater.

brad
brad (#1,678)

as a native californian, i can only agree with its rank of 12th if you remove all of the people.

obomobo
obomobo (#2,490)

New Mexico is #20? I call shenanigans.

Olivia2.0
Olivia2.0 (#1,716)

I'm on board with you. Also, funny shenanigans, or EVIL shenanigans?

hockeymom
hockeymom (#143)

It is now snowing sideways in #8. This storm is going to be good.

paxcincinnatus

Henceforth in the comments, all states will be referred to by their arbitrary numerical rank.

garge
garge (#736)

That's how we will be able to discern the trolls from everyone else.

paxcincinnatus

Jeesh, I was just joking around. I actually though HM's comment was pretty clever.

garge
garge (#736)

Oh, no, me too, just went with it, with ya

hockeymom
hockeymom (#143)

I think the two of you need to have angry make-up sex.

Baboleen
Baboleen (#1,430)

# 5's nuisance storm will commence around 4am at just the right time to make tomorrow's commute a nightmare.

Bittersweet
Bittersweet (#765)

Correction - to make tomorrow's commute even more of a nightmare. Here's to working from home...at least until the power goes out.

tralafel
tralafel (#1,221)

If Jeezy's paying Illinois for his paper towels I'm paying Maryland.

narnio
narnio (#38)

ILLINOIS ILLINOIS!

HelloTitty
HelloTitty (#830)

Born in PA, decades lived in MD. This list warms my crabby bits youse guys.

Dave Bry
Dave Bry (#422)

This is excellent. I would put Connecticut even lower. And yes, Oregon, for me, might be a top ten state.

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

See, this is my problem, there's more than one CT (say, NW CT vs. Stanford) and there's more than one OR (East vs. West). So start over, but do it by county or House districts.

CheeseLouise
CheeseLouise (#2,074)

You're racist against Parishes.

kneetoe
kneetoe (#1,881)

And especially by Parishes.

Bittersweet
Bittersweet (#765)

I can't resist the annoying pedant in me any longer - it's Stamford. (Sorry.)

Bittersweet
Bittersweet (#765)

Oh, I don't know - Ray Allen and Hammonnasset Beach in an off-jelly fish year should be good for at least a notch or two.

Krugmanic Depressive

At this point the best thing about CT is Amy Jean Porter.

As the band says:
We live in the dullest state
Package stores all close at eight
Malls are full of optometrists
And restaurants we hate
Swimming across Lake Quassapaug
Stealing makeup, catching frogs
Cutting our feet on broken bottles
As we wade in the Shepaug
It’s true for horses, cows and dogs…

Connecticut’s for fucking
That’s all there is to do.
I love to listen to classic rock
and have sex with you.

belltolls
belltolls (#184)

I wish there had been a commentary.

Setec Astrology

I smell an opportunity. What are you doing this afternoon?

belltolls
belltolls (#184)

I can't! OHIO is throwing me off! Also I have to go check to see if the mail came.

Natasha Vargas-Cooper

"Californiaaaaahhh" - Joni Mitchell.

KarenUhOh
KarenUhOh (#19)

So did this post serve its purpose, or thwart it?

PA
PA (#2,492)

First!

LeftCoastLady
LeftCoastLady (#1,274)

Oregon at #30? C'mon! Awesome beer, coffee, beards, and indie rock. That should at least get us in the top 15!

tiny dancer
tiny dancer (#1,774)

You forgot strip clubs. And pinot noir. Seriously though, I am surprised Washington was a bit higher. WHY WASHINGTON, WHY??!!

carpetblogger
carpetblogger (#306)

People forget that Oregon is more than Portland and Eugene. Because of the existence of Gresham, Coos Bay and Beaverton, the ranking should stand.

tiny dancer
tiny dancer (#1,774)

Places like Gresham (that are not even as pretty) exist in states ranked much higher than Oregon, though. I'd like to think the existence of Crater Lake and the many waterfalls, mountains, etc. more than negates the unpleasantness of Beaverton and such. There definitely is some serious beauty to be had outside of the hipster and crunchy enclaves.

dinosaur_senior

Disappointed in my home state, Mississippi, as we're used to leading in listicles like "most obese" and "most illiterate adults"...

major disaster

Massachusetts is ranked far higher than I would have expected from a person writing on the internet. I like it.

katiebakes
katiebakes (#32)

God, Utah so far down!? Obviously you're not a skier.

whippetsofmassdestruction

Mormons.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

A fucking Salt Lake.

garge
garge (#736)

Big Love!

beingiseasy
beingiseasy (#1,735)

+1 rock formations
-1 gaudiness of the Mormon Tabernacle
+1 gaudiness of the Mormon Tabernacle

katiebakes
katiebakes (#32)

You are all wrong. The Greatest Snow On Earth is its own religion, a religion which buries any polygamists in an avalanche.

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

Ahem. Fernie. Pot + Snow + Polygamists.

Suck it @ #49

kitten_witawip

Magic underwear.

Baboleen
Baboleen (#1,430)

-1 for all land-locked states.

Mindpowered
Mindpowered (#948)

+1 for not having to deal with rising sea levels.

Soren
Soren (#2,268)

There's no sense of history. Connecticut exists because Massachusetts had diverged too far from the righteous path, how can Massachusetts precede Connecticut? And Ohio (and parts of Illinois and westward, ho) is all just Connecticut leftovers.

And what, you (Bry) are talking about New London (CoCo for Wo and all), or the Occupied Territories (Fairfield County, or, New York) ...

Connecticutians rise up!

Olivia2.0
Olivia2.0 (#1,716)

I don't know how you got Illinois at #4, unless you are going on pure entertainment value. Srsly. (It is also snowing sideways in Chicago right now.)

NeonTrotsky
NeonTrotsky (#2,249)

1.Berlin
2.North Rhine-Westphalia
3.Saxony
4.Lower Saxony
5.Baden-Württemberg
6.Hamburg
7.Bavaria
8.Thuringia
9.Rhineland-Palatinate
10.Brandenburg
11.Bremen
12.Mecklemberg-Vorpommern
13.Saarland
14.Schleswig-Holstein
15.Hesse
16.Saxony-Anhalt

KeithTalent
KeithTalent (#2,014)

I can't shake the feeling that New Hampshire is getting away with something at #15.

BoHan
BoHan (#29)

They are! I don't large gangs of roving white people. They are up to no good. Yeah, I'm talking to you Pacific Northwest too.

leftcoaster
leftcoaster (#2,502)

Compared to the rest of the country, the Pacific NW is fairly underpopulated. So our gangs of roving white people are on the small side. Does that help?

BoHan
BoHan (#29)

trust insert between don't and large. Screw the Pooch Oregon and shush it.

leftcoaster
leftcoaster (#2,502)

I didn't even notice your typo! Due to all the delicious wine and coffee and local microbrews I've been drinking.

leftcoaster
leftcoaster (#2,502)

Things that are wrong with this list:
1. Florida should be much lower on this list, nestled in somewhere around Mississippi.
2. There is nothing wrong with Idaho, unlike so many other states. There are no people in Idaho, so you must judge it by its natural scenery, which is stunning, and the commodities it produces. Do you have something against potatoes?
3. Oregon's ranking is an egregious error, as has been mentioned in several other comments.
4. All of Michigan and parts of Pennsylvania are highly unpleasant rusted-out, post-apocalyptic hellscapes.
5. Kansas? A middling state? Have you forgotten the Westboro Baptist Church? The tolls on the interstate? The aborted fetus billboards?

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

UM there is plenty wrong with Idaho.

Namely Neo-Nazis and cops-that-pulled-me-over-in-college-driving-across-country-and-brought-in-a-K9-unit-with-no-reason-except-my-Rhode-Island-plates-and-they-only-found-one-joint-and-not-the-ounce-in-the-pocket-next-to-it-in-my-backpack.

leftcoaster
leftcoaster (#2,502)

They probably thought it was suspicious you managed to get your car off the island of Rhode in the first place.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

I highly doubt they've heard of that particular island.

paxcincinnatus

"All of Michigan and parts of Pennsylvania are highly unpleasant rusted-out, post-apocalyptic hellscapes.

So, you've never actually been to the "Middle West" before have you? There are parts of western Michigan - as well as the Upper Peninsula - are so beautiful it makes me blush.

Plus, you realize that Oberon is made in MI, right?

hattiecarnegie
hattiecarnegie (#2,504)

As a current Illinoisan, I question Illinois. But Idaho, though lovely, is Mormons and Larry Craig and the Education of Young Sarah Palin.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

and the Aryan Nation!

Rod T
Rod T (#33)

Fuck you! Indiana is way better than that.

rj77
rj77 (#210)

As someone who spent 15 years of her life there, I'll have to disagree with you.

Better to Eat You With

Well, my grungy little neighborhood in Indianapolis is, anyway.

DigThatFunk
DigThatFunk (#2,457)

I don't think Indiana gets enough love. But, then, I remember...we really don't have much going for us, and we're super conservative, in the con category. But there are a few worthwhile places in indiana.

Rod T
Rod T (#33)

Indiana voted for Obama, btw.

paxcincinnatus

"but there are a few worthwhile places in indiana.

/Cough/

Ahem. There are more than just a "few".

smartastic
smartastic (#2,437)

i'm not making any value statements about these states, but do these lists always run with #1 being the best? i mean, this could be a list ranked from worst to best.

myfanwy
myfanwy (#1,124)

Whoa, whoa. This changes everything.

HiredGoons
HiredGoons (#603)

'merca.

MattP
MattP (#475)

I was going to say that Maryland and Pennsylvania were transposed, then I realized we gotta keep it on the low, somewhat.

merkincapital
merkincapital (#2,508)

Are you going for most fiscally sound to least (50-1)? You came pretty close, bump Cali to 1 and TX to 50. Also a damn fine effort at least union friendly to most union friendly (a best to worst of its own).

BoHan
BoHan (#29)

Robin Hood Tax: +500000 for #45 for screwing the rich. Equating fiscal soundness with sitting on a bed of oil: -1000000 for #45

merkincapital
merkincapital (#2,508)

Guessing you don't get around to reading The Economist too often, what with the late hours at the factory and all.

BoHan
BoHan (#29)

I'm a lawyer smartypants, not that it should matter, and I am not pro-union. And if the Economist judges it good long-run fiscal policy for Texas to continue to ignore its out of control unwed teen birth rate, toll road rape, murder rate, and one of the most uneducated, poor, and unhealthy populations in the country, then that must just be fascinating reading. But I'll pass and just wait for Texas to go blue again, the over/under of which is about 10 years given current population trends.

sam
sam (#2,510)

The idea that anyone could make an honest list like this is silly, unless they've lived in all 50 states. As someone who has lived in both Louisiana and Connecticut, I can positively say that the two rankings should be switched.

And what the fuck qualifies North Dakota as the #24 spot? It's not particularly beautiful. The people aren't particularly friendly. It's not a particularly useful state. I don't hate N.D or anything; just baffled by its seemingly arbitrary position halfway along the list.

Hobbesian
Hobbesian (#255)

SAM IS ON TO YOU.

maggiethecat
maggiethecat (#1,667)

#17 seems fair for Louisiana. We have the Saints, boudin, and Zapps Creole Tomato chips, which almost makes up for our hurricanes, decimated swamps, healthcare, obesity, poverty, third world living situations, etc. Just to ensure we don't get too cocky, we have g.d. Jindall, Vitter and Jefferson to keep us in our place.

tralafel
tralafel (#1,221)

This is like that episode of the Twilight Zone where the neighbors all destroy each other.

joshc
joshc (#442)

due to the obvious ineptitude of the compiler of this ill-informed list I refuse to comment further on the gross errors in judgement OUT OF SHEER RAGE!

merro
merro (#2,532)

tobacco-prevention spending, per capita.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/10/us/10smoking.html?th&emc=th

Dan Kois
Dan Kois (#646)

For pageview purposes, this should really be a slideshow.

Defender90
Defender90 (#2,560)

The only time West Virginia has been above Virginia is on a map.

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