Thursday, October 29th, 2009

Despite All His Rage, Billy Corgan Still Just Doesn't Make A Lick Of Sense

lab ratPitchfork points to a doozy of a post Smashing Pumpkins leader Billy Corgan put up on his paranoid spiritualist website, Everything From Here To There. He is coming out as one among those who The Awl's Tom Scocca eloquently refers to as "degenerate idiots who deserve to get polio and live out their days in iron lungs while Child Protective Services takes away their children to be properly raised." Corgan writes: "I for one will not be taking the vaccine. I do not trust those who make the vaccines, or the apperatus behind it all to push it on us thru fear. This is not judgment; it is a personal decision based on research, intuition, conversations with my doctor and my 'family'. If the virus comes to take me Home, that is between me and the Lord."

Apparently, many New Yorkers aren't going for the vaccine either. Though probably not because they've read Corgan's thoughts on the subject.

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NicFit (#616)

I would be really mad if he or his 'family' transmitted the virus to me or my 'family'.

mathnet (#27)

Dave Bry, your headline and your photo have made me smile.

jfruh (#713)

My stepsister, who is a radiology tech in Buffalo, is also resisting getting the vaccine, despite the fact that it's required to work in a hospital (as she does), and is resisting letting her teenage daughter get it, even though she (daughter) would like to. It's a sort of populist "the gummit is making us do it so it must be bad" thing combined with horror stories of people who do sometimes get sick from the vaccine (whose numbers are orders of magnitued lower than those who get the flu).

In other news, I am also not getting the vaccine, because I am terrified of needles and am also a shut-in.

kneetoe (#1,881)

If the vaccine comes to take him Home, or to some less capitalized place, wouldn't that also be between him and the Lord?

HiredGoons (#603)

I'm probably not going to get it, just cause I barely ever get sick (aside from booze induced) but my cousin showed me this video, and while I realize the statistics are nil, I will say it freaked me the fuck out.

garge (#736)

My coworker was trying to get me to watch this, but I just ran out of the room LALALALAing. I work in a medical library, next to a hospital. Also, telling everyone repeatedly how I could Sure Use A Weeks Off at every mention of Swine Flu when it was just a specter might come as an embarrassment, if I fall prey.

Meeg (#309)

I saw that too! I am not going to get the vaccine just because I'm lazy and can't be bothered. When I get the swine flu and feel miserable everyone be sure and remind me it's my own fault.

josh_speed (#97)

I love (and by that I mean 'hate') those people that say they don't "believe" in vaccinations. I don't believe in SUVs, but that doesn't make them any less real, baby.
Also, this H1N1 is bringing out the people who are unswerving and damn proud to be medically ignorant. Hasn't the basic concept of vaccines been around and safe since like Louis Fucking Pasteur or something?

Yes, and the basic concept of flight has been around since the Wright Bros. But that doesn't mean you'd blindly fly in anything that called itself an airplane.

toadvine (#1,698)

But I'm betting you'd get on a major, American, commercial airliner without a second though, right? Maybe you'd avoid a home-made glider or something? Just to fix metaphors, this is entirely a hose of a different color. There is almost no risk in this vaccine — it is much less risky than driving a car/

toadvine (#1,698)

God damn it my keyboard sucks worse than every Smashing Pumpkins song other than "1979." Meant — "Just to mix metaphors, this is entirely a horse of a different color."

@toadvine: I thought that was the joke! "Fix metaphors," "hose of a different color." My vote: STET THAT SHIT.

Baboleen (#1,430)

I wonder if the vaccine or swine flu for that matter, will make him more sick than the other toxins I've got a hunch, he has put into his body.

janine (#248)

Are you talking about Tila Tequila's tongue?

johnpseudonym (#1,452)

You know what Stuart? I like you. You're not like the other people here in the trailer park. Oh no, don't get me wrong, they're fine people, good Americans. But they're content to sit back, maybe watch a little Mork and Mindy on channel 57. Maybe kick back a cool Coors 16-ouncer. They're good fine people, Stuart. But they don't know what the queers are doing to the soil.

muskegharpy (#2,094)

They're in it with the aliens.

God, Dean Milkmen. Where are you now?

johnpseudonym (#1,452)

According to their website, they are playing a show in Philly on the 31st. I assume they are there now. I saw them play at Riot Fest here in Chicago a few weeks ago. It was sad without Dave Blood, to be honest.

muskegharpy (#2,094)

Never actually saw them–became a fan after I moved to a very remote part of Alaska. Wish I could have, back in their heyday.

Flashman (#418)

"hose of a different color", "Dean Milkmen" – there are some great typos happening here!
I just went down to my folks place and picked up my old teenage vinyl (also where I picked up the H1N1, btw!) – which includes all of their albums and EPs, until 'Bucky Fellini' at least. Of those, 'Eat Your Paisley' is still their masterpiece. Very sad about Dave Blood, yes.

johnpseudonym (#1,452)

@ Flashman – You MUST listen to Beelzebubba!

Flashman (#418)

What was I saying – I meant 'Big Lizard…',their first, not 'EYP'!
I'll check out Beelzebubba, thanks.

Tom Scocca (#48)

I meant to say "degenerates who rip off the Pastels and deserve to get" etc.

Tuna Surprise (#573)

Fuck these people. We should put them on an island with the polio virus.

garge (#736)

Whenever the Jenny McCarthys start sounding off, I think of this article about the WHO's efforts to eradicate polio from the world and become enraged.

Wow–I usually would turn to Will Oldham or Jack White for medical advice, but gee, he sure is convincing!

josh_speed (#97)

Jack White made me liniment for my arthritic knee.

elecampane (#1,877)

Andrew Bird concocted me a mustard poultice that time I had croup, and M. Ward rid me of a migraine with moxibustion.

Bittersweet (#765)

It's not generally known that in order to become a rock star, you have to get certified in pre-1900 home remedies.

sox (#652)

Is that because rock stars can't afford health insurance so they can't go to the doctor?

Flashman (#418)

If there's no-one what will take care of you, Will recommends another day full of bread, and also finding a new partner.

zidaane (#373)

Reminds me of this movie 'The Incredible Two Headed Transplant' where the head of a rapist was attached to the body of giant dar dar.

HiredGoons (#603)

'Blinking With Fists.'

End of argument.

Matt (#26)

I've said it before and I'll say it again; if you'd have told 1995 me that one day Trent Reznor would be a bulky hesher-bro *married* to a *girl* and Billy C. would be writing diatribes like this, I'd have spit in your face.

toadvine (#1,698)

Yeah, but Corgan was always a whiny douche. Reznor muscling up is, admittedly, surprising.

HiredGoons (#603)

Dude, Trent.

Matt (#26)


Mackle (#446)

"I've seen the needle and the damage done"

slinkimalinki (#182)

swine flu didn't make me die. but it did make me shit myself, really, really shit myself for the first time in my adult life (and in all of the chidhood life that i remember). it was an unstoppable deluge of liquid shit. i was wearing shorts and tights at the time and when i took them off, i had shit hot-pants.

i guess what i'm saying, billy, is that if that happens to you, keeping that deluge of shit strictly between you and the lord would be a nice change from your usual style.

Bucko (#1,599)

People have always fought against the efficacy of vaccines. See Alfred Wallace's battle against the small pox vaccine in the 1880's. Vaccines in general are good for the population, but not necessarily for the individual. If you don't give a hoot about society, and you don't get out much, you're probably better off not taking the vaccine.

Flashman (#418)

The problem I see with the vaccine, at least with the clusterfuck way they're dishing it out up here in Kanada, is that you have to stand in a crowd and wait for hours to get it, thereby exposing yourself to all manner of pathogens from all these unclean strangers.
For me, the answer was to preemptively catch the Heenie down in Toronto 2 weeks ago = three bed-ridden days with a fever. Even now it still hasn't really gone away (sore throat, weird temp fluctuations, zero appetite), so not ideal but at least I won't have to go wait in line!

janine (#248)

None of us should be getting it, to be honest, unless there are pregnant women, children, the elderly, or people who have frequent contact with the aforementioned groups on this board. They should get it. Supply's really low.

Mindpowered (#948)

Exactly, the Canadian Government has taken care of the problem by running out of the vaccine a couple days after it's started to be given out.

So it's now a philosophical question; If their was one would it take it, and how many angels would fit on the head of syringe?

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